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re: Roe v Wade officially overturned

Posted on 6/24/22 at 9:40 pm to
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 9:40 pm to
Y'all keep up the whataboutism strawmen as if I support those scenarios you're bringing up. I don't.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44381 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 9:40 pm to
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Like Roe should have never passed muster but did so for 50 years?


Almost as bad as Plessy passing muster for 56.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29055 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 9:40 pm to
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And exactly how will this be done?
There are likely many avenues.

Pro-lifers think abortion is equivalent to murder. You think red states are going to let murderers go unpunished?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37751 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 9:41 pm to
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Y'all keep up the whataboutism strawmen as if I support those scenarios you're bringing up. I don't.


Says the idiot that just said, with complete seriousness, that millions of people will be forbidden from having an abortion and states are going to enact snitch laws to arrest people who go to other states to have an abortion
Posted by TidenUP
Coden, AL
Member since Apr 2011
14671 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 9:41 pm to
When cornered, always throw out the "whataboutism" quip.
Posted by Tlreb
Mississippi
Member since May 2011
197 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 9:46 pm to
40 down votes ,,, wow how uniformed !
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 9:46 pm to
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Says the idiot that just said, with complete seriousness, that millions of people will be forbidden from having an abortion and states are going to enact snitch laws to arrest people who go to other states to have an abortion


I wasn't quite that certain about the 2nd part.

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Until states try to enact bounty and/or snitch programs




And states will ban abortion. Do you believe red states won't do as much as they possibly can to prevent people from leaving the state to murder babies?

Suppose they don't or can't.. Sure, people with means may be able to travel and get an abortion, so then you only wanna punish poors. That's really what this country is missing, anti-poor legislation.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44381 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 9:48 pm to
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Do you believe red states won't do as much as they possibly can to prevent people from leaving the state to murder babies?


No, I don't. It's not that big of a deal. But for some reason it is to you....a dude. Weird.

You don't happen to worry about someone creampieing your 16 year old daughter do you?
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 9:49 pm to
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When cornered, always throw out the "whataboutism" quip.



I don't know what else to call it if you are bringing up unrelated scenarios to the topic at hand.

In fact, if anything, you furthered the point that people in power will do what they can to control others, right or wrong.
Posted by TidenUP
Coden, AL
Member since Apr 2011
14671 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 9:50 pm to
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That's really what this country is missing, anti-poor legislation.


Have you seen the fed programs for poor, inner city people in this country? Damn. You gotta be trolling.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37751 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 9:51 pm to
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wasn't quite that certain about the 2nd part.


The fact that you even think that is possible is laughable.

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And states will ban abortion. Do you believe red states won't do as much as they possibly can to prevent people from leaving the state to murder babies?


They literally CANT do anything to stop someone from going to another state. Period. End of story.

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Suppose they don't or can't.. Sure, people with means may be able to travel and get an abortion, so then you only wanna punish poors. That's really what this country is missing, anti-poor legislation.


Again, non profits will pay your tab if you can’t afford it. Multiple large corps have also stated the same.

People of ALL income levels will be able to get a safe abortion in the United States. That will not change.

Unclutch your pearls you little cuck.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 9:52 pm to
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Again, non profits will pay your tab if you can’t afford it. Multiple large corps have also stated the same.

People of ALL income levels will be able to get a safe abortion in the United States. That will not change.


Assume all of this is true. Why bother banning it at the state level?
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
53804 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 9:54 pm to
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Assume all of this is true. Why bother banning it at the state level?


Because the majority of a state may not support killing babies
Posted by Horsemeat
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Member since Dec 2014
15271 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 9:55 pm to
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Why bother banning it at the state level?
Because I don't want my money funding the genocide of children, much like how I don't want your precious freak show psycho drag queens in public libraries brain washing children with their mental illness.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
50107 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 9:55 pm to
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Assume all of this is true. Why bother banning it at the state level?

Sweet Jesus
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37751 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 9:55 pm to
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Assume all of this is true.


There is no ASSUME, dude. It’s a mother fricking fact. I’m sorry that you are an emotional little peon that is incapable of understanding basic facts.

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Why bother banning it at the state level?


Because that is how it is supposed to work. States are beholden to the people within them. If the people of state A want abortion banned, then so be it. If they don’t, then guess what? The laws will reflect it.

Amazing how the division of power works, eh?
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129602 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 9:55 pm to
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Assume all of this is true. Why bother banning it at the state level?


Why ban anything at the state level then?
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
14819 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:06 pm to
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Thomas would almost certainly rule that the law was constitutional. Look at his dissent in Lawrence.


"Punishing someone for expressing his sexual preference through noncommercial consensual conduct with another adult does not appear to be a worthy way to expend valuable law enforcement"

sounds like he thought that the right to privacy doesn't exist in the constitution and that state governments would be stupid to pass such laws or keep them on the books. sounds reasonable.
Posted by SoonerK
Member since Nov 2021
1014 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:11 pm to
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"Punishing someone for expressing his sexual preference through noncommercial consensual conduct with another adult does not appear to be a worthy way to expend valuable law enforcement"

sounds like he thought that the right to privacy doesn't exist in the constitution and that state governments would be stupid to pass such laws or keep them on the books. sounds reasonable.


That is why I said Thomas would rule it constitutional for a state to ban sex outside of marriage.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29055 posts
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:11 pm to
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Again, non profits will pay your tab if you can’t afford it. Multiple large corps have also stated the same.
Is this one of the possible avenues of enforcement across state lines? How does this work for tax purposes and state benefit programs?

What kind of mess will health insurance be?
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