re: Rivian R1T’s first real-world towing test shows 62% range loss

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The power stays on until up until the storm comes through, so every EV in the path should be fully charged and ready to go with plenty of range to get as far away as needed. And they didn't have to fight lines at the gas station and hope they didn't run out ahead of the storm. It was also hard to get gas for a long time after the storm. If you have solar panels and home battery storage, though, you're good to go forever. Or if you have a natural gas standby generator, it would be an expensive fill up but you can charge your EV at home that way. This whole argument is kind of silly and actually favors EVs by a lot.

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One, the average median household income in this country is $67K. What % of the population is going to be able to afford to drop $15-$25k to set their house up for all of these charging options? On top of the more expensive sticker price on EV’s?

Two, do you think increasing the load on all of the grids across the country isn’t going to come with a price? Do you think electricity is just created out of thin air? Do you think it’s free and the government is just going to be giving it away?

We’re a looooooong ways away from relying on solar panels exclusively. I like the technology but it’s just not practical.

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New Orleans to Mobile is less than 150mi.

After a hurricane that is plenty far enough to clear a disaster area.

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Point = missed

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By you.

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When power is out for multiple days or weeks, how will you charge the car?

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There are many, many facilities around here with large generators capable of charging an EV. Even a whole-home generator will do, and those are everywhere. Pretty soon cars will come with solar panels and you'll get a few miles per day for free.

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I can store fuel in a can. I can take a few gallons to someone that needs it. I can't efficiently store electricity currently.

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You're touting this as a benefit, and it is a benefit as far as storing energy. But what you're not getting is that in this disaster scenario you've concocted, you are storing it in cans and delivering it to someone in need because gas is in short supply. It's hard to find, and neither you nor anyone you know can make it. You have to wait for a giant corporation to produce it and distribute it so that you can buy it. What if you or I or anyone could produce our own gasoline? What if the natural gas lines to your house could spit out gasoline? What if the wind could blow in some gasoline? What if the sun could shine down some gasoline? What if you could pour some diesel in a machine and it would produce gasoline? That would make things a lot better, right?

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I'm trying understand the traveling for a 9 hour road trip. If I have an electric car, I would probably have to find a charging station after 300 miles and wait for how low long before I can drive another 300 miles?

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I think at Tesla superchargers you can put in 200 miles worth at a time for the quickest stops, and that can be done in about 15 minutes. So you would drive for 4 hours, stop for 15 minutes, drive for 3 hours, stop for 15 minutes, then drive the last 2 hours.

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You think it costs 25k to install an electric vehicle charger in your home?

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No. That was in response to having your house outfitted with all the necessary solar equipment to be able to charge in the event of an extended power outage situation. Some people didn’t have power in Lake Charles for months after their shitty year last year. Not to mention your solar panels can get damaged with the quickness during hurricane season leaving you extra screwed.

How fast do you think the hoods around the country are going to be able to adapt to an EV ecosystem? Or better yet, what about the bigger apartment complexes that have upwards of 1000 residents? Who’s going to outfit those lower income places with superchargers? What happens to the guy driving around in the $800 truck doing odd jobs? Does that guy pull the trigger on $50k EV, charging station, solar panel, etc.

Like I’ve been saying. We’re a long arse way away from EV’s being a significant mode of transportation in the country. Forcing this shite would devastate low income communities.

Bingo. I live in Algiers Point. It’s an old school street parking neighborhood. My wife parks in our small driveway. I park on the street. In 2 years my kid will have a car. Where the frick do I put 3 chargers on city owned property? Do I run long arse cords to my truck and risk getting sued when someone trips on it?

It’s just not practical for most of the country. These fricking idiots trying to make it a mandatory change all live in houses with 3 car garages or have drivers. They have no idea what it will take to make EV’s the primary vehicle on the road.

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The weird thing is I get tried more often in my car by people in pick-ups than any other vehicle. Most are diesel and most are clearly modified but they are still "slow". Now my car has an ICE but can run 0-60 is 2.2 seconds and 0-100 is 5.3 (stock) but I guess these guys don't know cars. IME there are a lot of P/U drivers that seem to be interested in speed.

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Same sort of clowns that think their Harley's are fast.

People will still not accept this. I always had access to electricity for Ida. I did not always have gas on the other hand

I have a gas can that can get me approximately 100 miles and is portable.

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We’re a looooooong ways away from relying on solar panels exclusively.

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I see this mentioned a lot. Who's saying we should or could ever rely on 100% solar at a grid level?

FYI, relying on solar at a house level is 100% possible.

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If you're leaving town, most will do so with a full charge

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How many people let their damn fuel light come on before they look for gas? You honestly think the majority of drivers will be mindful of charge every night? Good luck trying to change the driving habits of women overnight. Lol this whole EV bullshite is chasing unicorn farts