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re: Rivian R1T’s first real-world towing test shows 62% range loss
Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:01 pm to dgnx6
Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:01 pm to dgnx6
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Did they ban horses from being used back then?
Dare you to try and use a horse and buggy on I-10 in Baton Rouge or Houston. You'd be the target of more road rage than a pack of cyclists.
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:15 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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Electric vehicles are the future
bullshite, ICE will still be needed for next 30 plus years as electric vehicles can’t scale. If/when ICE are no longer needed it won’t be replaced by electric, hydrogen maybe.
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/green-technologies-have-glaring-problem-scale
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Technologies that do not scale are destined to remain boutique technologies, the purview of the rich, environmental activists, and politicians that seize upon them to make empty promises.
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:57 pm to MardiGrasCajun
[quote]Those against electric trucks will change their tune as they get smoked by electric vehicles moving forward. Most have never even driven one. The fastest production vehicle is now electric....the Tesla Plaid will smoke anything on the road all day every day.[/quo
Of all the things I consider when buying a truck how it performs in a drag race has never been one of them.
Of all the things I consider when buying a truck how it performs in a drag race has never been one of them.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:04 pm to USEyourCURDS
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How will them Cah’lic high baws make it to Grand Isle with their Yellowfins?!?
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Have daddy pay for a tow truck
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:17 pm to Kjnstkmn
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ICE will still be needed for next 30 plus years as electric vehicles can’t scale
They are scaling faster than even the boldest predictions.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:18 pm to MardiGrasCajun
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The fastest production vehicle is now electric....the Tesla Plaid will smoke anything on the road all day every day.
The sooner you get Elon's dick out of your mouth, the sooner you can figure that what you said here is bullshite.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:24 pm to EA6B
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[quote]Those against electric trucks will change their tune as they get smoked by electric vehicles moving forward. Most have never even driven one. The fastest production vehicle is now electric....the Tesla Plaid will smoke anything on the road all day every day.[/quo
Of all the things I consider when buying a truck how it performs in a drag race has never been one of them.
And I dispute the all day, every day thing. I challenge the owner of an electric car to a 500 mile race. I also challenge electric car owners to a race following a hurricane or other natural disaster. I dunno, maybe they do keep cans of electricity around for emergencies?
I like the concept of electric cars, I kinda want a Cyber Truck, but I also know it's ridiculous to cram it down our throats without any forethought on... how.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:26 pm to fightin tigers
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They also don't charge linear. 2 1 hour charges are better than one 3 hour charge (times used are for demonstration).
Better how? Li-ion batteries can accept a faster charge rate early in the charge cycle but fast charge rates also degrade the batteries and reduce the number of total charge cycles.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:27 pm to concrete_tiger
New Orleans to Mobile is less than 150mi.
After a hurricane that is plenty far enough to clear a disaster area.
After a hurricane that is plenty far enough to clear a disaster area.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:27 pm to Clames
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but fast charge rates also degrade the batteries and reduce the number of total charge cycles.
For your chinese dewalt this is true.
2 - 1 hour charges will get more range than a single 3 hour. That's why trying to judge by 0-100% charge time is futile.
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:29 pm to stout
This is a thread by Stout so I was trying to figure out what the thread title meant about Covid
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:31 pm to EA6B
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Of all the things I consider when buying a truck how it performs in a drag race has never been one of them.
The weird thing is I get tried more often in my car by people in pick-ups than any other vehicle. Most are diesel and most are clearly modified but they are still "slow". Now my car has an ICE but can run 0-60 is 2.2 seconds and 0-100 is 5.3 (stock) but I guess these guys don't know cars. IME there are a lot of P/U drivers that seem to be interested in speed.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:33 pm to fightin tigers
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New Orleans to Mobile is less than 150mi.
After a hurricane that is plenty far enough to clear a disaster area.
Point = missed
When power is out for multiple days or weeks, how will you charge the car? You gonna run a generator and trickle charge it for a day? I can store fuel in a can. I can take a few gallons to someone that needs it. I can't efficiently store electricity currently.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:35 pm to Obtuse1
They didn't spend 8k to delete and tune their diesel to gas engine specs just to puss out when they have a chance to roll coal.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:36 pm to concrete_tiger
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Point = missed
When power is out for multiple days or weeks, how will you charge the car?
Where are you driving?
I was without power for over a week and I didn't worry about filling my car until long after I had power.
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:48 pm to jimbeam
I'm trying understand the traveling for a 9 hour road trip. If I have an electric car, I would probably have to find a charging station after 300 miles and wait for how low long before I can drive another 300 miles?
Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:58 pm to stout
I'd rather the Edison Future truck coming in 2025
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:00 am to Kjnstkmn
quote:The present then?quote:bullshite
Electric vehicles are the future
quote:Probably won't be needed, but sure they'll still be around.
ICE will still be needed for next 30 plus years
quote:Yes they can.
electric vehicles can’t scale
quote:If hydrogen plays a substantial role in our future transportation needs, it will just be an alternative to or used in combination with batteries, along with a fuel cell to power an EV. This is far more efficient than a hydrogen ICE can possibly be.
If/when ICE are no longer needed it won’t be replaced by electric, hydrogen maybe.
But if you want to talk about scaling, how expensive do you think it would be to build out hydrogen infrastructure? Expensive trucks, expensive pipes, expensive fuel stations, etc.
Hydrogen is far better suited for grid-scale energy storage. Wind energy is dirt cheap, and often that energy is wasted because too much is produced. Send the excess to an electrolyzer, produce and store hydrogen, then feed it to a fuel cell system when demand picks back up or the wind dies down.
quote:This link is 100% fluff and is completely devoid of any facts whatsoever. It doesn't cite a single source, nor even attempt to back up any of its claims. You think you learned something by reading that?
LINK
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:03 am to stout
That's why the tech will fail to catch on. range loss and inconvenience. the federalis can force the issue as much as they can but who's going to be there for people living in northern/southern/desert states during extreme weather conditions?
You know, since they loooove to tout that more frequent extreme weather = climate change, it must be pointed out that electric-only vehicles are literally the WORST fricking option in anything except perfect conditions.
The technology simply isn't there yet, and anyone who claims otherwise is a fricking shill.
You know, since they loooove to tout that more frequent extreme weather = climate change, it must be pointed out that electric-only vehicles are literally the WORST fricking option in anything except perfect conditions.
The technology simply isn't there yet, and anyone who claims otherwise is a fricking shill.
This post was edited on 12/1/21 at 12:05 am
Posted on 12/1/21 at 12:09 am to concrete_tiger
quote:The power stays on until up until the storm comes through, so every EV in the path should be fully charged and ready to go with plenty of range to get as far away as needed. And they didn't have to fight lines at the gas station and hope they didn't run out ahead of the storm. It was also hard to get gas for a long time after the storm. If you have solar panels and home battery storage, though, you're good to go forever. Or if you have a natural gas standby generator, it would be an expensive fill up but you can charge your EV at home that way. This whole argument is kind of silly and actually favors EVs by a lot.
I also challenge electric car owners to a race following a hurricane or other natural disaster.
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