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re: Rice University announces free tuition for middle income undergraduate students

Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:39 am to
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:39 am to
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Rice must have a hell of an endowment.




Which is strange because Asians are not usually well endowed
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:40 am to
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Good for them. That is awesome.


Right up until these grads enter the job market and employers start questioning the quality of a non-scholarship free degree.

EDIT: Apparently the board is full of idiots who think that a business can slash its costs and keep the same product quality.
This post was edited on 9/18/18 at 8:26 am
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:42 am to
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Right up until these grads enter the job market and employers start questioning the quality of a non-scholarship free degree.

I don't follow.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45420 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:42 am to
They have a 5 billion dollar endowment. Just dropping that in to an average mutual fund produces 350 MM a year. They will survive.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:43 am to
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Right up until these grads enter the job market and employers start questioning the quality of a non-scholarship free degree.


An employer who questions the quality of a degree from Rice is an employer who will be out of business in a few years.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7452 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:44 am to
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Right up until these grads enter the job market and employers start questioning the quality of a non-scholarship free degree.


You really think this is going to damage Rice's academic reputation? The kids still have to get accepted and pass the classes.

Potential employers would have to discount ALL Rice degrees without knowledge of whether or not an applicant qualified for this program.
Posted by FlyinTiger93
Member since May 2010
3724 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:45 am to
LINK

Baylor does similar. Up to $40K in financial assistance, per year.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43342 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:45 am to
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Right up until these grads enter the job market and employers start questioning the quality of a non-scholarship free degree.



Why would the employer care how a candidate’s degree was paid for?
Posted by Ryan3232
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:47 am to
What about poor income students?
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:48 am to
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By making $215,000 you'll be on the hook for the $40,000 or so annually that it actually costs. More punishing of the successful.


You're making a weak argument, IMO.


Agreed. If your parents make 215kand they have to pay 40k for child to go there....then their kid is a dumbass and should have either did better in school or went somewhere else cheaper.

That's not punishment for success. You have to measure the success of the student, not their parents. If your paying full price to attend then you're child was not successful.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:51 am to
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What about poor income students?



They’ve been going for free.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80823 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:56 am to
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You're making a weak argument, IMO.
How so? And, the guy who responded to you with "if you're paying full price your kid is a dumb arse" is a dumb arse because failing kids don't get accepted to Rice.
This post was edited on 9/18/18 at 7:59 am
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80823 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:58 am to
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.then their kid is a dumbass and should have either did better in school or went somewhere else cheaper.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10971 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 8:09 am to
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Nothing is free. Follow the money. Somebody is footing the bill.

This
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44823 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 8:18 am to
Well, the value of a degree from Rice just dropped precipitously.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 8:20 am to
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Well, the value of a degree from Rice just dropped precipitously.



How?
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
62212 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 8:30 am to
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'til the early mid 70's.

When you attended, right?
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7452 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 8:36 am to
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EDIT: Apparently the board is full of idiots who think that a business can slash its costs and keep the same product quality.


$5 billion endowment. In addition, what percentage of their student enrollment will ultimately be impacted by this plan? Students from families making less than $65K were already attending for free.

How much tuition were the students from families in the $65-$130K range paying before? At Harvard, those families generally pay no more than 10% of their annual income.

Also, they will be increasing the number of graduates with no student loans. These students will be in a better position to give back to the university earlier than they would if they had to worry about paying off loans.

You think Rice did this without looking at all the angles and figuring out the economic impact? Who's the idiot again?
This post was edited on 9/18/18 at 8:40 am
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 8:38 am to
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EDIT: Apparently the board is full of idiots who think that a business can slash its costs and keep the same product quality.

Spell it out for us.

I have a sneaking suspicion you have no idea what you're talking about.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40790 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 8:44 am to
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EDIT: Apparently the board is full of idiots who think that a business can slash its costs and keep the same product quality.


These people were not going to rice. I hardly think adding a handful of merit based scholarships is going to drastically reduce the quality. If anything rice just got a lot more competitive
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