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re: Reveille Opinion Article: Tigerland dress code discriminates against blacks

Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by Asgard Device
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:23 pm to
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black student wasn’t allowed in because he was wearing all white Nike Air Force 1s


AF1's are specifically prohibited?

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Why isn’t there a no khaki shorts rule?


The OpEd doesn't believe thuggery can be a problem in bars? Or does the OpEd believe that thugs are just as likely to wear khaki shorts as they are to wear saggy pants and flat bill hats?

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these bars are not concerned about all the money they’re losing


So the Bella Noche business model is more lucrative?
Posted by CoopsjwReed
Miami
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:26 pm to
Wait, whites discriminating against blacks that don't entertain them (football and basketball teams) in the south ?


Color me shocked
Posted by massiveattack
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:29 pm to
I was hoping you would show up
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:30 pm to
YOu have to be Heather's alter. Good job.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:31 pm to
Another thing is being overlooked. So what if the dress code was purely to keep black people out (which would be working terribly as you will see black people in Fred's, Reggie's, Bogie's, etc. on any given night). What if it was a way to not be blatantly racist? How does that compare to a super preppy white guy trying to get into a black bar/club? You don't think he's going to get some kickback from the bouncers? And they aren't going to hide behind a dress code. They are sometimes going to straight up say "no way white boy" and no one is going to do a damned thing about it.

Posted by LSUBoo
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:32 pm to
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this is the answer. Movie theatres wish they could do the same thing.


Why can't they? They are private businesses just the same as bars.
Posted by CoopsjwReed
Miami
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:34 pm to
I'm sorry dude but you can't even start to compare blacks discriminating against whites to whites discriminating against blacks. We're talking about the most powerful group and its history of discrimination against the most discriminated group.

It doesn't even stack up--- sorry those things aren't even equal. I'm sure you think the voting rights act and such made as such

Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:36 pm to
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We're talking about the most powerful group and its history of discrimination against the most discriminated group.


Jews discriminating against Jews?
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:38 pm to
9 pages so far on the opinion of an ignorant 19 year old SJW/Political Science major.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:38 pm to
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How does that compare to a super preppy white guy trying to get into a black bar/club?

And that happens so often the best reference you could find was Animal House.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:39 pm to
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Getting into a private establishment like Freds isn't comparable to voting.


Except both are against federal law
Posted by roadGator
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Member since Feb 2009
157674 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:39 pm to
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I'm sure you think the voting rights


Should be changed to include the requirement of a legal ID and a basic civics test. No pass, no vote. On welfare permanently, no vote.
This post was edited on 9/30/15 at 12:40 pm
Posted by wizziko
New Jersey Nets Fan
Member since Jan 2006
35881 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:48 pm to
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If they can't keep them out with the dress code, they'll start playing country music inside.

that happened at Red Eye in NOLA before

also Balcony Bar started a dress code when it started to get a little too gangsta in there
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:48 pm to
I realize it's not the same when it comes to "reverse racism". But we can make an article in an newspaper that is stretching dress codes into a purely racist act when we can overlook an actual, uncontested racist act.

And in regards to the dress code, I do feel they need to do something different since they obviously will let certain people with white shoes, or whatever in because it's not who they are looking to keep out. That causes some problems. But I used to go out in BR a lot and to a lot of different bars. Not a single one did we ever even notice that it would not have any minorities in it because it had a dress code. It's about the demographic. You see a white guy in a polo and short khaki shorts, you are going to have a pre-conceived notion about what the bars he hangs out in are like. You see a guy with baggy pants, chains, and white tennis shoes, you are going to have a pre-conceived notion of what the bars he hangs out in are like. You take the same people and groom them differently, you are going to get different results. So how does race play into it??? By going off the dress code rule, one can look back and say "well you let that guy in". They just need to say right to refuse service. But they are scared that would look more racist.

This is all about assimilation of culture. We want everyone to get along and I'm all for that. But, we have to realize that unless we all assimilate into the same cultural preferences, people are not going to mix together perfectly. And that is life and it's fine. But we are trying to say that it is discrimination. That's just not the case. We are trying to force the acceptance of a minority's preferences (the minority in the sense of actually being a minority percentage, not necessarily racial minority) on the majority.

Is there some racism that's probably involved as well on a personal level with some bouncers.....I'm sure. But overall, the rules aren't meant to keep black people out. I've been out with black friends and friends of friends and never saw a flinch from a bouncer. It's what happens when you wear a polo, jeans, and new balance running shoes.

Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:51 pm to
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And that happens so often the best reference you could find was Animal House.


That quote just came to my mind while thinking of it . What's funny is they were let in that bar, so it makes absolutely no sense to this argument.
Posted by wizziko
New Jersey Nets Fan
Member since Jan 2006
35881 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:53 pm to
I don't understand why someone would wear white shoes out anyway. You're asking for them to get dirty or scuffed up
Posted by Eric Stratton
Faber College
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by 805tiger
Member since Oct 2011
4557 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:58 pm to
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My favorite artist is supposed to be the biggest a-hole.


Kanye.....
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:58 pm to
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Kanye.....


Okay, so maybe there are bigger assholes.
Posted by CoopsjwReed
Miami
Member since Sep 2015
267 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 1:03 pm to
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But we can make an article in an newspaper that is stretching dress codes into a purely racist act when we can overlook an actual, uncontested racist act.


It's not stretching it, it's prejudice in nature to keep Blacks and hip hop influence dress out. Maybe you don't want to believe that people could act in such way, but here's a new flash. It's the south, this shite isn't past anyone.

To me it boils down to laziness and a lack of exposure. Look at how segregated neighborhoods are in south and in the public school and private school systems. Many of these keeps aren't exposed to different thing s and people from an early age so they end up falling back on lazy, and preconceived notions about people and groups. Laziness and fear conquer those that can't fight or don't care to actually think past the surface and assess a person for a person. Now I understand a bouncer doesn't have the time to do such, but I do think more exposure and habituation to various stimuli allows you to discriminate more accurately and amongst them
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