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re: Return of the Smack: JBE Press Conference Thursday 12/30 at 1
Posted on 12/30/21 at 2:49 pm to cgrand
Posted on 12/30/21 at 2:49 pm to cgrand
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the unvaccinated are going to get omicron. No it won’t kill you unless you are frail to begin with. The vaccinated and boosted are less likely to get it and when they do get it they’ll be less likely to have severe symptoms or require hospitalization .
Do we have enough data to definitively declare all of these statements correct?
It doesn’t seem like we do, but maybe you’ve seen something I haven’t.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 2:51 pm to ell_13
I remember like 15 years ago I was coaching youth basketball and we had to postpone a couple games bc of a flu outbreak (literally didn’t have enough kids that weren’t bed ridden sick). As soon as kids felt good enough to play again, we resumed. We didn’t need someone like Dr. O’Neal to give us permission. Good times.
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 12/30/21 at 2:52 pm to ell_13
herd immunity was never happening until the virus became more contagious and less harmful. Just like the flu
there will be seasonal SARS viruses and seasonal influenza and thus seasonal vaccines that will be elective, just like always. The beat goes on
there will be seasonal SARS viruses and seasonal influenza and thus seasonal vaccines that will be elective, just like always. The beat goes on
Posted on 12/30/21 at 2:54 pm to cgrand
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there will be seasonal SARS viruses and seasonal influenza and thus seasonal vaccines that will be elective, just like always.
Yeah you might want to have a word with Dr. Kanter who said kids need the vaccine to go to school in La.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 2:55 pm to SelaTiger
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Are they really expecting us to get our kids tested before they return from break?
I hope not, in my small town the only place that is testing without charge is the hospital and that’s with a doctors order, the local CVS says they don’t have the staff to do any testing.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 2:56 pm to cgrand
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The vaccinated and boosted are less likely to get it and when they do get it they’ll be less likely to have severe symptoms or require hospitalization
Vaccinated People Also Spread the Delta Variant, Yearlong Study Shows
Study found similar peak viral load with or without shots
boom. roasted.
fauci ouchie idiot
Posted on 12/30/21 at 2:56 pm to cgrand
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The vaccinated and boosted are less likely to get it
I don’t think this is true. The first person to have Covid at my husband’s work was someone who was fully vaccinated & boosted. He graciously spread it around.
(Anecdotal- I know)
Posted on 12/30/21 at 2:56 pm to Y.A. Tittle
just anecdotal statistics of infection rates, survival rates and geographical spread. There are no absolutes but there are logical conclusions that can be made thru gathering and analyzing data.
the data I see shows a drastic spike in infections and a drastic decline in fatalities. It also shows a sharp distinction between infections and fatalities in vaccinated vs unvaccinated
we (I) have drawn conclusions based on that. Others may differ, but that doesn’t mean lies are being told
the data I see shows a drastic spike in infections and a drastic decline in fatalities. It also shows a sharp distinction between infections and fatalities in vaccinated vs unvaccinated
we (I) have drawn conclusions based on that. Others may differ, but that doesn’t mean lies are being told
Posted on 12/30/21 at 2:58 pm to cgrand
I get what you’re saying. This will eventually meld into seasonal cold just like the Spanish flu became the dominate “parent” of the seasonal flu.
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Since the whole world had been exposed to the virus, and had therefore developed natural immunity against it, the 1918 strain began to mutate and evolve in a process called “antigenic drift.” Slightly altered versions of the 1918 flu reemerged in the winters of 1919-1920 and 1920-1921, but they were far less deadly and nearly indistinguishable from the seasonal flu. “The 1918 flu definitely lost its real virulence by the early 1920s,” says Taubenberger. But what’s truly incredible, according to genetic analyses, is that the same novel strain of flu first introduced in 1918 appears to be the direct ancestor of every seasonal and pandemic flu we’ve had over the past century.
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 12/30/21 at 2:58 pm to cgrand
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the data I see shows a drastic spike in infections and a drastic decline in fatalities. It also shows a sharp distinction between infections and fatalities in vaccinated vs unvaccinated
Haven’t there been virtually NO documented fatalities as a result of this Omicron variant?
Posted on 12/30/21 at 2:58 pm to Proximo
we are at omicron not delta
try to keep up
try to keep up
Posted on 12/30/21 at 2:59 pm to LSUJML
JBE is a big bully. F that slimy piece of shite. I stopped listening to his advice a long time ago.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 3:02 pm to cgrand
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if you are vaccinated (and boosted) or you have already had COVID you are much less likely to get infected
My wife has had all 3 shots, she had to get tested today because of exposure at work, two rapid tests were positive and the other more accurate test was sent to a lab. She feels fine but her mother and brother who again have had all the shots tested positive today and are legitimately sick. I feel fine and have been around all 3 a lot the last week, especially the wife.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 3:04 pm to ell_13
yes exactly
seasonal influenza is a variant of the deadly Spanish flu. Had the Spanish flu not found equilibrium with the host by becoming both more contagious and less deadly it would not be here today
as someone mentioned earlier this is why something like Ebola never escapes containment. It kills too quickly and is easy to quarantine. SARS is impossible to quarantine and one day it is likely that one will arrive that will be an existential threat which is why there are very smart people working in virology AND the lab in wuhan should be burned to the ground
seasonal influenza is a variant of the deadly Spanish flu. Had the Spanish flu not found equilibrium with the host by becoming both more contagious and less deadly it would not be here today
as someone mentioned earlier this is why something like Ebola never escapes containment. It kills too quickly and is easy to quarantine. SARS is impossible to quarantine and one day it is likely that one will arrive that will be an existential threat which is why there are very smart people working in virology AND the lab in wuhan should be burned to the ground
Posted on 12/30/21 at 3:09 pm to cgrand
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we are at omicron not delta try to keep up
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CDC expects that anyone with Omicron infection can spread the virus to others, even if they are vaccinated or don’t have symptoms.
From:
CDC on Omicron
Posted on 12/30/21 at 3:09 pm to ell_13
quote:You are very ignorant and misinformed and know NOTHING about Catholicism. It is a privilege and honor to be Catholic and to celebrate Jesus through mass and the holy Eucharist.
Is that like Catholic “Tradition
Posted on 12/30/21 at 3:11 pm to Proximo
In summary we learned nothing new (JBE said as much) in terms of dealing with the pandemic and recommended treatment/mitigation from the state: 1. Social distance, 2. Mask up and 3. Vaccinate.
However the 500 pound gorilla in the room is therapeutic rigidity from state and medical establishment and vaccine rigidity.
At this point the state and medical establishment has to realize what they are dealing with and humble up and offer antivirals and monoclonals to keep people out of the hospitals. It’s the middle ground.
Policy changes like administering antivirals and monoclonals early (to both vaxxed and unvaxxed) will lower hospitalization rates. Ron DeSantis proved that in Florida and have witnessed it first hand.
The state and medical establishment’s rigidity to early treatment with therapeutics and monoclonals is baffling and trying to determine why this is their stance this late in the game especially after proof that they work quite well when administered early leads to malevolent and conspiratorial reasons.
It’s time for the state and medical establishment to give up on its therapeutic rigidity for early treatment of COVID
However the 500 pound gorilla in the room is therapeutic rigidity from state and medical establishment and vaccine rigidity.
At this point the state and medical establishment has to realize what they are dealing with and humble up and offer antivirals and monoclonals to keep people out of the hospitals. It’s the middle ground.
Policy changes like administering antivirals and monoclonals early (to both vaxxed and unvaxxed) will lower hospitalization rates. Ron DeSantis proved that in Florida and have witnessed it first hand.
The state and medical establishment’s rigidity to early treatment with therapeutics and monoclonals is baffling and trying to determine why this is their stance this late in the game especially after proof that they work quite well when administered early leads to malevolent and conspiratorial reasons.
It’s time for the state and medical establishment to give up on its therapeutic rigidity for early treatment of COVID
Posted on 12/30/21 at 3:12 pm to GreenRockTiger
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CDC expects that anyone with Omicron infection can spread the virus to others, even if they are vaccinated or don’t have symptoms.
correct
omicron is much more contagious than previous variants which is very good news. Unvaccinated people are going to get it if they are exposed. Vaccinated people with a current booster are most likely not going to get it but some will and because it’s so contagious they can spread it
Vaccines do not prevent shedding virus if you are infected and they never have. Viruses cannot be cured
Posted on 12/30/21 at 3:14 pm to cgrand
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Vaccinated people with a current booster are most likely not going to get it
There is absolutely no data that suggests this conclusion.
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