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re: Retired St Louis police captain, 77, is shot dead 'protecting his friend's pawn shop

Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:07 am to
Posted by toosleaux
Stuck in Baton Rouge traffic
Member since Dec 2007
9441 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:07 am to
Very few videos I have seen on the Internet hurt me. This one did. Laying in the blood with his eyes wide open, trying to gasp for breath. A 77-year old black man who survived his entire life as a cop, only to die on the sidewalk so some assholes could take some tv’s.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
31908 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:10 am to
And not a peep on any of the MSM or local news coverage. Easily as heinous as the video that the media is blaming for the current domestic terrorism, but NOT A WORD. Disgusting.
Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
2124 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:16 am to
None of this is about black lives, it is marxist insurrection. We need to call it what it is.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61403 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:19 am to
SO, the protesters cannot keep bad people out of their protests like the cops have a hard time in keeping bad people from getting on the police force.



Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:24 am to
quote:

His life didn't matter because he was shot by another black guy.


FIFY
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
16905 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:27 am to
That video was terrible to watch. That man did not deserve that.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84369 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:32 am to
Tariq Nasheed’s followers told me it’s a shame he died but he was a necessary casualty in the war against white supremacy
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
20711 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:40 am to
The video is awful. Guy is lying on the sidewalk gaspin for air and the dumbass filming never bothers to stop filming to call 911

Omg they shot you cuzzzz

Stay wit me cuzzz stay wit me cuzzzz

Rest In Peace cuzzzz (he was still alive and moving)

The last thing going through his mind was call 911 you dumb frick.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 7:41 am
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72626 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:42 am to
*This is going to my long rant. Feel free to skip.*

I just tried to have a conversation with an old black friend of mine and he is completely uninterested.

He actually use to be my best friend before we ended up moving separate ways in life (different states, relationships, etc.)

He is a huge Christian. I say this to give background on him. Like he is very outspoken on it.

He is asking how can people be outraged at looting and riots, but not the loss of a black life..

So I try to tell him that I can't think of a single person who isn't outraged over the loss of life. I also said why can't people be outraged at both?

His response,

quote:

"Because if our collective time and energy aren't focused on stopping police from subjecting Black folks to wrongful convictions, arrests and murders then riots and looting won't stop. If we can force systematic change through things that may be uncomfortable like riots and looting, then they stop when the unfair treatment stops. Riots and looting are only a symptom of a bigger issue. When you have a cold, wiping your nose doesn't make the cold go away."


To me that sounds like he is then condoning everything going on. I try to show him actual data and such, but again he is completely uninterested.

So he goes on to say,

quote:

Do you believe that property is more valuable than a Black life? Do you believe that a Black life is more valuable than property?


But yet the rioting and looting he thinks is necessary for change is costing more innocent lives, including this black man here.. so his response is this..

quote:


if you solve the problem of the American justice system and unfair treatment of African-Americans, you solve the problem of riots in this regard.


So then I wonder if we can passionately proclaim that we need to transform the culture in law enforcement, what about the need to also discuss transforming the culture in high crime neighborhoods?

And then what's to say another problem doesn't arise. Is violent protesting really the answer?

My whole point is that people like him really don't seem to care about the loss of lives, including other innocent black lives. I don't understand how he isn't just as enraged at this.

I don't know that we can ever see eye to eye here and it's pointless to even try to have a discussion.

I am about ready to give up on any hope here.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:44 am to
quote:

The video is awful. Guy is lying on the sidewalk gaspin for air and the dumbass filming never bothers to stop filming to call 911


Not true according to this tweet:

Don't get upset at the guy filming it. He called 911 before rolling and spent the rest of the 13 minutes (that's how long the video is) fending other looters off from the store.

LINK
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72626 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:44 am to
quote:

Guy is lying on the sidewalk gaspin for air and the dumbass filming never bothers to stop filming to call 911


People are claiming he did in fact call 911 first. He then started filming.

It would have been nice for him to try CPR, but obviously he is not trained. He seems to be young, but IDK. I would have liked him to maybe hold his hand or be slightly more comforting. However, he seemed like he was trying the best he knew how.. I am not going to bash him, because at least he stood around and was also getting onto all the other people around him. In a way, I commend him for that.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14569 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:45 am to
God Bless Mr Dorn and his family.

This makes me sick.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:50 am to
Compare blacks dying to cops to contraction of HIV.

Gays don't get HIV because theyre gay, they get it because they practice activities with risk. You don't necessarily get HIV the first time you share a needle or have sex with someone who has HIV, but a build up of those activities overtime increases your risk.

It's all about mitigation of exposure to risk. Almost every notable case of a black person who died to cops in the last 20 years had multiple encounters and arrests; they had a history of multiple activities of risk.

I have a personal goal to interact with people with badges as little as possible over the course of my life. As a result, I partake in activities that could cause exposure to that risk as little as possible.

He won't like to hear it or make up some bullshite about blacks being more likely to be arrested, but they also commit proportionally more of the crime.

Unarmed whites are also killed by police
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 7:51 am
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:52 am to
.

The vast majority of blacks killed are killed by other blacks and they are responsible for many of the abortions in this country.

Blacks killed by whites arent "more dead" than the blacks killed by blacks.
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Amadeo
Member since Jan 2004
4883 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 8:02 am to
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The video is horrific.


I saw it about 10:00 last night and I still can't get that out my head.
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
18842 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 8:25 am to
Made the mistake of watching it. So sad and infuriating.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14569 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 8:40 am to
Truly disgusted by what those vermin did to him. Over a GD television.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55434 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 8:45 am to
Another broken egg
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216201 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 10:31 am to
I have not watched. I’m already pissed off at these people who just don’t give a shite about anything and are destroying and stealing shite just because they are thugs.... but just reading this thread makes me want to puke.
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