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re: Restaurants are adding service fees up to 22%, and they don't plan on stopping soon

Posted on 5/17/23 at 6:32 am to
Posted by Steadyhands
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Member since May 2016
7032 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 6:32 am to
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Easy solution is dont tip.
Probably the first thing that would pop in my head but you would just be hurting the wrong person.


Initially, yes. They want to charge more under the bullshite claim of not making money. Since it's a service charge, they can choose what to do with it, including not pay their servers more even though they are greedily profiting a lot more. If tips stop, servers will quit, which will mean the restaurant will have to increase pay to get servers.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
74935 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 6:41 am to
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They’re about to FA/FO when people stop eating out
People are too lazy to stop eating out or ordering take out. Dumbasses pay high prices just to have food delivered a few miles because they can't be bothered to pick it up themselves.
This post was edited on 5/17/23 at 7:23 am
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
7267 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 6:45 am to
Well…..bye
Posted by 62Tigerfan
Member since Sep 2015
5092 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 6:48 am to
No problem. I will not add additional tips. With the service charge, the restaurants will have to pay the workers more. That has been the case at restaurants throughout Europe forever.
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
8372 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 6:52 am to
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Easy solution is dont tip.
this. If I saw a 20% service charge, I’m “0” out the tip line.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118092 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 6:53 am to
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People a r e to lazy to stop eating out or ordering take out. Dumbasses pay high prices just to have food delivered a few miles because they can't be bothered to pick it up themselves.



This is from a thread recently about food delivery apps. When I read it, I had to take the screenshot.


Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
74935 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 7:24 am to
Yep. That's the crap that gets me. Credit card debt on a $90,000 income be dammned.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51451 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 7:26 am to
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Dumbasses pay high prices just to have food delivered a few miles because they can't be bothered to pick it up themselves.

It's amazing to me that became as popular as it did.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
74935 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 7:29 am to
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It's amazing to me that became as popular as it did.
Two hundred years into the future, will people even move? What's the movie where everyone is in a chair and plugged in?
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51451 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 7:37 am to
Everything will be drone delivered, people won't leave their houses
This post was edited on 5/17/23 at 7:58 am
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
2235 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 7:38 am to
So don't tip because restaurant added a fee? Server is not getting the service fee. Why penalize your server?

I don't really understand why restaurants don't just up their prices, but this is not the servers fault.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
3420 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 7:39 am to
Going out to eat is hardly worth it anymore. Not a good experience bc “Covid” excuse and prices. If no service fee on menu, I’d complain to take it off. If they don’t, that’s the tip. Service fees aren’t usually given to the staff, and I tip well, but I would hold strong there. No bill should go up 50% for service and tip being added.
Posted by Benne Wafer
Member since Jan 2015
442 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 7:50 am to
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Financial publications like the WSJ and others have written how many businesses are needlessly staying with higher "Covid" pricing + inflationary justification to determine where the customer's tolerance ends.

Yep, we've hit our point too. We had already started eating out less a year ago because of the crappy service due to staffing shortages but we slowed it down even more the last few months because everything is easily double the cost of a year ago but now all these credit card/service fees are being added too.

Tip fatigue is a thing, fee fatigue is the next thing. It's already happened with Airbnb, people want to know the price of things upfront. They don't want to have to search for every single restaurant's disclosure and breakdown just to determine what a meal might cost. What good are "low" menu prices if the overall cost is substantially more with backend fees? Enough with the fee shell game.
Posted by Benne Wafer
Member since Jan 2015
442 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 7:56 am to
Also "service fee" is confusing. So many people are going to assume that is going to the server and adjust their tip accordingly. "Operations fee" is more accurate but owners know people will push back with that.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53160 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 7:57 am to
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So don't tip because restaurant added a fee? Server is not getting the service fee. Why penalize your server?



Aside from simply not going to the restaurant, it may be the only way to send a message to the owners who aren't distributing the service fees back to their workers.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38370 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:02 am to
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So don't tip because restaurant added a fee? Server is not getting the service fee. Why penalize your server? I don't really understand why restaurants don't just up their prices, but this is not the servers fault.


A weekend of no one tipping because of the service charge will see those servers quitting and the service charge removed by Monday.

A handful of people bitching to management means the service charge stays until the place goes out of business.

Restaurant management can stomach a few angry customers. Their waitstaff quitting en masse is untenable.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
3420 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:03 am to
Everyone is using inflationary adjustment. Except employers. One day we will all be on the dole, as they’ve planned. It’s just begun.
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