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re: Restaurant owner jailed for 6 years because a powder used contained peanuts

Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:39 pm to
Posted by piggilicious
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:39 pm to
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You order anything from an indian restaurant while being allergic to nuts and you are playing with fire.


i agree. the restaurant shouldn't lie and dude may deserve punishment but it doesn't make the 'victim' less of an idiot.


Posted by TH03
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:41 pm to
Chicken tikka masala is chicken cooked in a tandoor served in a yogurt, tomato, curry sauce with serrano peppers. Literally 0 peanuts unless you're this idiot who uses a nut powder for some absurd reason.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:41 pm to
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Yea okay


You're a strange person
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:42 pm to
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There you have it. All we needed was some anecdotal evidence to crack the case. 


Maybe you should Google something before you spout off.

But I've had run-ins with you before. You're an idiot if I remember correctly.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:43 pm to
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My little hypothetical was just to underscore how crazy it is to not walk around with an epi pen if you are deathly allergic to a common ingredient found in a lot of Thai food.


I agree with that. I'm allergic to bees. I decided that being a beekeeper might not be the best choice of a career. That doesn't mean I'll barricade myself in my home. I was simply addressing the notion that the restaurant owner isn't to blame because the victim should only eat food he prepared.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:43 pm to
Says the guy calling "Indian garden" a Thai restaurant.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:45 pm to
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Which I understand, because I do not know where all these kids who face death if a peanut is nearby were when I was in school.


you didn't know anyone with peanut allergies. Congrats. That doesn't mean anything in the big picture. How am I strange for pointing that out?
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:46 pm to
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i'm sure that's not true but you really didn't hear about it then. i do wonder why it seems to be such a bigger thing now compared to the past- is it something else we're eating or something in the environment- what?



While it isn't true that "Nobody was allergic to peanuts 25 years ago"...the population that was allergic to them was minuscule. In the last 25 years there has been a dramatic increase in hypersensitivity to peanuts, and you are right...there are other factors that have resulted in this increase. The trouble is determining what those other factors are. Here is one theory...a correlation between the way we changed childhood vaccinations during that time.

LINK


eta...link problem resolution
This post was edited on 5/25/16 at 1:03 pm
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:47 pm to
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You order anything from an indian restaurant while being allergic to nuts and you are playing with fire.


I think many of you are confusing Indian food with Thai food.
Posted by Hammertime
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:49 pm to
I used to put peanut butter on my dog's nose when he was a puppy. You're saying I should do that to babies?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87349 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:52 pm to
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you didn't know anyone with peanut allergies. Congrats. That doesn't mean anything in the big picture. How am I strange for pointing that out?



Someone on page 1 posted some grandiose comment saying peanut allergies didn't exist back then.

I responded saying that the guy was being over the top out of exasperation, which I understand (the exasperation) because of (anecdote). I was talking about the perception.

You respond as though I'm trying to prove something substantive about peanut allergies, which I subsequently clarified was not the case.

Posted by tankyank13
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:53 pm to
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Which I understand, because I do not know where all these kids who face death if a peanut is nearby were when I was in school.






I wonder the same thing, it certainly seems much more common these days.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:54 pm to
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i do wonder why it seems to be such a bigger thing now compared to the past- is it


My conjecture is that you hear about it more now for the same reason you hear more about everything now. The internet and access to information.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:56 pm to
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My conjecture is that you hear about it more now for the same reason you hear more about everything now. The internet and access to information.



Probably a large part of it. Moreover, I expect there are more kids who know about their allergies, and more parents who overreact about them.
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
5101 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 1:00 pm to
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My conjecture is that you hear about it more now for the same reason you hear more about everything now. The internet and access to information.


Not really. There really has been a substantial increase in the amount of children with peanut allergies.

mainly because women were previously told to not expose their kids to peanuts
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 1:02 pm to
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An old lady with brittle bone disease, decides to go grocery shopping in the rain with high heels on....."your floor shouldn't have been wet!!"


Swap out "in the rain" with "in a store where they were hosing down the floor"
Posted by duggieblue
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 1:02 pm to
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You order anything from an indian restaurant while being allergic to nuts and you are playing with fire.


Peanuts!!! Not "nuts". One can be allergic to peanuts and eat other nuts that grow on trees. Peanuts are of the legume family. And you are not any more likely to be allergic to other legumes.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 1:04 pm to
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I wonder the same thing, it certainly seems much more common these days.


Since 1990 it has increased from about 0.5% of the population to approximately 2.0%.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 1:08 pm to
I think it is fascinating that people bring up peanut allergies much like they do ADD/ADHD or autism. They're talked about as if they didn't exist prior to 1990 and everyone is just making it up. The conversation for ADD/ADHD and autism is for a separate thread, but the peanut allergy is cut and dry - either it will kill you or it won't. There is no subjective test that is being done where people blame their kid's crazy behavior on peanuts or something.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87349 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 1:14 pm to
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I think it is fascinating that people bring up peanut allergies much like they do ADD/ADHD or autism. They're talked about as if they didn't exist prior to 1990 and everyone is just making it up. The conversation for ADD/ADHD and autism is for a separate thread, but the peanut allergy is cut and dry - either it will kill you or it won't. There is no subjective test that is being done where people blame their kid's crazy behavior on peanuts or something.



But serious question, I assume it is possible to have a mild peanut allergy.

If that is possible, then it very well might be a situation like gluten tolerance. It became rather en vogue to act like gluten would kill people that didn't have celiac's disease. Some probably had some lower level of gluten intolerance, some probably just wanted attention.

I could see something similar being the case for a certain type of parent. A kid has a mild reaction to peanut allergy, or is told that the child has a peanut allergy, and the parent acts like the child will die if exposed to peanuts.
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