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re: Restaurant owner jailed for 6 years because a powder used contained peanuts

Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:06 pm to
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:06 pm to
How can you be deathly allergic to something you eat and not have an Epipen at your home where you are eating?
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:07 pm to
Sorry tank.
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:08 pm to
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He explicitly asked for no-nuts and was told there was no-nuts. That is the threshold that most of us would have as well.



this isn't "no mayo, sauce on the side" level of importance.
If I am going to die if a eat something wrong, I in no way shape or form would be "trusting"
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:09 pm to
I would never eat out
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:10 pm to
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lol, seriously? You think the dude has James beard award winning chefs BOH? These places are the same, just the standards of execution are different. And if this is a trendy metro area, then they want "authentic".


Fair, but you specifically bolded this in the OP.

quote:

His restaurants won local business honours and acclaim from the British Catering Association and the British Curry Awards


So this isn't exactly some taco truck in Corpus Christi.
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But the purpose of the statement was to say that this dude was "reckless" in leaving his life open to a mistake that can be made by anyone unknowingly.


He's probably lived his whole life that way. He takes reasonable precautions to ensure he doesn't ingest or come in contact with peanuts. I don't think it is reasonable for him to have to go above and beyond in case a restaurant explicitly lies to him about food containing peanuts.
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:12 pm to
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I would never eat out


I would be a home gourmet, and all the money people spend eating out, I'd have a chefs kitchen.

But like someone said earlier, you'd have an epi pen or something.

My Dad is severely allergic to bees, and we had a kit that we were taught to use if he got stung while doing yard work. And that was when I was 5 year old.
This post was edited on 5/25/16 at 12:12 pm
Posted by tankyank13
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:12 pm to
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Sorry tank.


Thanks bro, nothing personal
Posted by NoNameTiger
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:13 pm to
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I mean I get your point, but it's not like the deceased was being careless. He explicitly asked for no-nuts and was told there was no-nuts. That is the threshold that most of us would have as well.


Maybe, but if I had a deathly allergy to peanuts, I damn well will be carrying an epi pen with everytime I go out to eat. Especially at any Indian/Asian place where peanut is often used.

I mean, shite happens. If I have that severe an allergy, I am either not taking the chance or bringing my medicine with me just in case.
Posted by GM
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:13 pm to
He looks like a murderer, therefore guilty.
Posted by piggilicious
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:14 pm to
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NOBODY WAS ALLERGIC TO PEANUTS 25 YEARS AGO.


i'm sure that's not true but you really didn't hear about it then. i do wonder why it seems to be such a bigger thing now compared to the past- is it something else we're eating or something in the environment- what?

Posted by slackster
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

this isn't "no mayo, sauce on the side" level of importance.


quote:

If I am going to die if a eat something wrong, I in no way shape or form would be "trusting"


Well you take that risk every time you eat out. Hell wasn't fresh broccoli killing people not long ago? Obviously those are extremes, but the point is that a restaurant explicitly lying about the ingredients is not a reasonable threat to your daily life that should be avoided. This wasn't some peanut sauce that dripped onto a dish or anything.

As for your OP, your belief that the deceased was "reckless" doesn't change the fact that the owner was guilty of negligent manslaughter.
Posted by Eighteen
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:15 pm to
I'm sorry, you are deathly allergic to peanuts and order takeout from a fricking Indian restaurant?

Owner deserved fines/a potential civil suit, but jailing him is dumb and waste of resources.

This post was edited on 5/25/16 at 12:32 pm
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:16 pm to
If he takes reasonable precautions to ensure he doesn't ingest peanuts, why wouldn't he take reasonable precautions in case he accidentally did ingested peanuts?
Posted by T
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:17 pm to
The peanut allergy guy should have known better than to order a dish that contains so many ingredients. Unless the owner advertised the meal as containing no nuts, its crazy that he is in trouble for this.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:17 pm to
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Someone else got sick a week earlier from them too because he lied about peanuts in the food, he did nothing, then this guy explicitly asked if there were peanuts and they said no and marked his to-go box "no nuts".

That's pretty fricked up.


That's reckless disregard for the safety of your patrons. It's funny how you can rape and murder over there and get less time. But frick with their Indian takeaway and you're doing hard time!
Posted by NoNameTiger
Mandeville, LA
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

i'm sure that's not true but you really didn't hear about it then. i do wonder why it seems to be such a bigger thing now compared to the past- is it something else we're eating or something in the environment- what?


A prevailing theory is that we have become such a bunch of germophobic neat freaks that we do not expose ourselves to enough antigens to develop a well functioning immune system and what, in the past might have been realatively minor allergic reactions are now full blown anaphylaxis.
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:18 pm to
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I damn well will be carrying an epi pen with everytime I go out to eat.


Yeah I can't really defend this. I'm not sure if it was used and/or if it was even available to him.
Posted by LesMiles BFF
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:18 pm to
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do wonder why it seems to be such a bigger thing now compared to the past- i


Studies have shown that parents are delaying exposure of their children to certain foods because of a fear of allergies when in fact, early exposure to the food helps the child develop a resistance to the food.

In other words, over protective mothers are hobbling their kids for life.
This post was edited on 5/25/16 at 12:21 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:20 pm to
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If I am going to die if a eat something wrong, I in no way shape or form would be "trusting"


You could say this about so many things. If you don't place some level of trust that people aren't going to be scumbags, you should probably never leave your house.

*edit

From my understanding, this was advertised and repeatedly affirmed to be "peanut free." It's not completely unreasonable to believe that. If I advertise that my food is "strychnine-free" and someone dies after I put strychnine in their food, I wouldn't use the defense of "they should have stayed home."
This post was edited on 5/25/16 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 12:21 pm to
I have one that's a few years old (straw purchase), but I think you need a prescription to get one.

I cried when I found out I was allergic to bubble gum medicine. Well, I cried after I came home from the hospital
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