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re: Residents of southwest Atlanta complain of "retail racism"

Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:11 pm to
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:11 pm to
Alright, I’ve been doing a little research.

First off, that area has everything any other suburban area has.

Secondly, they’re acting like it’s Buckhead or something. Looking at Google Maps, that area looks like the Westbank of New Orleans. Filled with shitty rundown strip malls.

And if you look at the real estate, yeah, there are some fairly nice houses here and there, but most of it is just your average run of the mill suburb at best.

So I don’t know why this person is expecting some amazing shopping like it’s Buckhead.

She has unrealistic expectations.
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 2:25 pm
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93721 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:13 pm to
What I want to know is, who is the news director that said, “oh, let’s print this story! This is solid news! Everyone is going to love this. This is important news for a major American city to know about. There’s literally nothing else any more important .”

How was this story hatched and who got the ball rolling?
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 2:14 pm
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51827 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:14 pm to
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Ann Pope has lived in the upscale neighborhood “The Cascades" for the last 15 years.


She chose to live in Southwest Atlanta because it's 95% black, and she wouldn't have to deal with the crackers. I don't need to hear about retail racism from her.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19691 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:14 pm to
Duh...she can’t walk there
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
21846 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:15 pm to
They never stop their bitching.


Shoppers, that is.
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 9:09 pm
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62794 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:15 pm to
I bet she's not screaming racism when she's shopping for homes and find a comparable 2500 sf home in Buckhead running about $700k and in South Atlanta that home is $350k.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:16 pm to
Here are the median incomes of the subdivisions that make up the Cascade area of Southwest Atlanta:


Cascade Heights: $45,687

Beecher Hills: $42,020

Audubon Forest: $55,064

Adams Park: $42,774

Venetian Hills: $41,995
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 2:23 pm
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:18 pm to
They want upscale shopping so it can get picked clean by their five-finger discount grandchilluns.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:22 pm to
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“I think that it is racism,” said Council member Overstreet of developers. “All they do is look at a zip code and decide what they'd like to put there."




Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62794 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:23 pm to
I 100% guarantee that retail stores couldn't care 2 shits worth about your race compared to your average household income.
There are dozens of small towns in Alabama that are high majority white, yet there's a big number of kids in the area schools getting free or reduced cost lunches, and Nieman Marcus isn't opening up any stores there either.
Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
15994 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:23 pm to
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I think that it is racism,” said Council member Overstreet of developers. “All they do is look at a zip code and decide what they'd like to put there.


wouldnt that be literally how any business would decide on if to open somewhere?
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57486 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:25 pm to
It's racist for business owners to put their businesses where they will have the best chance for success?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

wouldnt that be literally how any business would decide on if to open somewhere?

To say that looking at a zip code is the sole determining factor for putting a store in a certain area is ridiculous. I believe they look at the revenue numbers for similar businesses in the area.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79221 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:41 pm to
The reality is that middle and upper middle class black people live in Cascade because it's a "black" part of the city that isn't a shithole.

A lot of black people live down there for political-ish reasons, so they can tell black people "I live in SW Atlanta" rather than "I live in Buckhead or Vinings." Kasim Reed for example.

Businesses don't locate there because there isn't enough volume to sustain them from the better Cascade areas. And the surrounding areas are hood. It's the same reason these people complaining have gated neighborhoods despite being in the city (something not common in most cities, including most of Atlanta).

Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8004 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

quote:
wouldnt that be literally how any business would decide on if to open somewhere?

To say that looking at a zip code is the sole determining factor for putting a store in a certain area is ridiculous. I believe they look at the revenue numbers for similar businesses in the area.


They look at quite a few things and there are firms out there that are highly specialized in retail real estate, especially for high end retailers.

But yea, pre-ad sales, traffic, potential product mixture, median income, and so on and so on all factor in - I've done some work that touched on this before, and it's pretty cool.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:47 pm to
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move out of the burbs


That Greenbriar Mall / Camp Creek area is not in the suburbs.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35145 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:47 pm to
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I love the walkability of my neighborhood,


Is that code? WTF does that mean? They have sidewalks?
Posted by canyon
Member since Dec 2003
18383 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:51 pm to
It basically means you can walk to any form of convenience. Be it grocery restaurants bars retail etc. it’s the rage man.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76330 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:53 pm to
Imagine living in a country so free and wealthy that the lack of a Gucci store within walking distance is seriously considered to be an example of racism.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 2:54 pm to
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I 100% guarantee that retail stores couldn't care 2 shits worth about your race compared to your average household income.


Restaurants do

And rightfully so, some stereotypes are just true.

"Diet coke, no ice. Oh and is it free refills?" (and then doesn't tip)
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