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re: Reports of multiple fatalities at an Oregon Community College
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:39 pm to chinhoyang
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:39 pm to chinhoyang
quote:Yep.
It is a societal mental health problem. Something (and I'm no expert, so I don't know what) has created a society with too many lost souls. I go back to when I was in high school and no one would even think that someone was going to come in and shoot the school up. Farm boys when come to school with gun racks in their trucks - no one gave it a second thought.
It is a mental health issue.
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:40 pm to chinhoyang
Stronger states rights and a weaker federal gov't will solve most of our problems. Lets states decide individually what they want their min wage, gun laws, drug laws to be. Don't like your state? Move. Give all people a ONE time moving voucher. After that, they're own their fricking own.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:41 pm to Scruffy
It most definitely is.
People are a fricked up breed
People are a fricked up breed
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:41 pm to Scruffy
Hey Scruffy.
I don't like you.
I'm going to hire someone to steal your guns, commit crimes and have you sent to prison. You good with that?
I don't like you.
I'm going to hire someone to steal your guns, commit crimes and have you sent to prison. You good with that?
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:42 pm to roadGator
quote:
1. You don't think there are background checks now?
2. Define skills testing. I may agree with you here to an extent. However, skills testing won't stop criminals. It will increase the number of center mass shots though.
3. Ownership testing? Wut?
4. Great, bigger government and more taxes. Liberals love this. I see why you want it.
5. LOL If you really believe this you are a loon.
6. see #5
1. it can always be made better. And Id also have a federal agency audit the state agencies that conduct the background checks to ensure that all the right steps are taken.
2. Skills testing in terms of accuracy, precision, loading, unloading guns. If you're a hunter, then obviously youll be using different guns and rifles. You should know how to use your gun for its purpose.
3. An 100-150 question examination about gun use, laws, situations, the particular gun you own, etc. This would be another way to deter the dumb from owning guns and to make sure that those in possession are fully aware of the responsibilities required to own a gun.
4. Youre acting like another $5,000 will be coming out of your taxes. In actuality were looking at a small percentage
5. Yes I do believe 5 and 6 because these will require owners and sellers to conduct their own form of gun control and holding others liable will have a trickle down effect of responsibility and safe ownership. If i could lose my business or pay a hefty fine for loosely selling guns to cons and murders, dont you think owners would make sure every possible step would be taken to ensure that they are selling their guns to responsible law abiding citizens?
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:42 pm to Pettifogger
quote:
It's hard to consider it terrorism when there isn't a cognizable ideology behind it.
True.
Terrorism is supposed to advance a political agenda or goal.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:42 pm to Scruffy
Normally would agree, yet it's been half a day now and we know very little details which smells of the federal government and agencies doing over time work on investigating. This does not look good.
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:42 pm to SmackoverHawg
quote:
Stronger states rights and a weaker federal gov't will solve most of our problems. Lets states decide individually what they want their min wage, gun laws, drug laws to be. Don't like your state? Move. Give all people a ONE time moving voucher. After that, they're own their fricking own.
There's a lot to be said about voting with your feet - don't like your state (or city or county for that matter), then move.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:43 pm to roadGator
quote:
Hey Scruffy.
I don't like you.
+1
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:43 pm to Rebel
quote:
Did you come up with that plan all by yourself?
yes i did
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:44 pm to Konkey Dong
quote:
Yep, convinced you are a troll. Pretty shitty thread to troll in though
No im not, and i dont even know how that perception is being made of me
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:44 pm to Scruffy
Just imagine if the targets had all been armed. I wonder how long the shooter would've lasted and how many would have died.
Now that more and more health providers are on EHR, it's gonna make the gun grab even easier. All that info just waiting to be exploited. No guns for crazy people? Define crazy. Do people even realize that a prescription for an antidepressant for any diagnosis or any length of time may be all it takes. You think this will encourage people to seek care? Or will it send people back to the shadows of the mental health world.
Now that more and more health providers are on EHR, it's gonna make the gun grab even easier. All that info just waiting to be exploited. No guns for crazy people? Define crazy. Do people even realize that a prescription for an antidepressant for any diagnosis or any length of time may be all it takes. You think this will encourage people to seek care? Or will it send people back to the shadows of the mental health world.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:45 pm to SmackoverHawg
"State's rights" is code for let me do whatever the hell I want to whoever the hell I want/ the conservative version of "freedom"
Should we trust some of those folks? I read about the times when we let those people run this country and we were the furthest we've ever been from "One nation under God." There are tens of millions of americans that dont trust these folks and have every reason not to --- > look at their track record.
Should we trust some of those folks? I read about the times when we let those people run this country and we were the furthest we've ever been from "One nation under God." There are tens of millions of americans that dont trust these folks and have every reason not to --- > look at their track record.
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:46 pm to CoopsjwReed
quote:
And Id also have a federal agency audit the state agencies that conduct the background checks to ensure that all the right steps are taken.
The background check is a federal background check currently performed through the FBI.
LINK
Amazing you want people to follow your GC thoughts and you don't even know what the hell you are talking about.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:47 pm to CoopsjwReed
quote:
3. An 100-150 question examination about gun use, laws, situations, the particular gun you own, etc. This would be another way to deter the dumb from owning guns and to make sure that those in possession are fully aware of the responsibilities required to own a gun. 4. Youre
Ok. As long as a test of equal difficulty is required to vote. And responsible voting habits must be displayed. Do this, and the rest will solve itself.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:47 pm to CoopsjwReed
quote:
An 100-150 question examination about gun use, laws, situations, the particular gun you own, etc. This would be another way to deter the dumb from owning guns and to make sure that those in possession are fully aware of the responsibilities required to own a gun.
4. Youre acting like another $5,000 will be coming out of your taxes. In actuality were looking at a small percentage
5. Yes I do believe 5 and 6 because these will require owners and sellers to conduct their own form of gun control and holding others liable will have a trickle down effect of responsibility and safe ownership. If i could lose my business or pay a hefty fine for loosely selling guns to cons and murders, dont you think owners would make sure every possible step would be taken to ensure that they are selling their guns to responsible law abiding citizens?
#1 is done now. Nothing to talk about here unless you hire tons of psychologists basically jamming up the system and restricting rights during the process.
#2 I could get behind but it would be more of a special license that makes it easier for me to get more guns quicker. Carrot and not the stick.
#3 Won't stop criminals so it's pointless
#4 BIGGER GOVT NO
#5 See my kidding post above to Scruffy
#6 You gonna hold car dealerships responsible for stolen cars?
You have one point out of six that you could actually run with and get people talking about it.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:48 pm to SmackoverHawg
quote:
Stronger states rights and a weaker federal gov't will solve most of our problems. Lets states decide individually what they want their min wage, gun laws, drug laws to be. Don't like your state? Move. Give all people a ONE time moving voucher. After that, they're own their fricking own.
Wow. Somebody gets it. Unfortunately the whole North winning the civil war and instituting the 14th Amendment which forces conservatives to live as second class citizens in the nation their ancestors helped to literally built from nothing detail renders this solution impossible.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:49 pm to Sao
quote:
I'm lost. When has anyone, including Obama, tried to suggest an all out gun BAN??
I can find more if you like.
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:49 pm to CoopsjwReed
quote:
1. it can always be made better. And Id also have a federal agency audit the state agencies that conduct the background checks to ensure that all the right steps are taken.
You know that the Feds run the NICS check now, correct...
quote:
2. Skills testing in terms of accuracy, precision, loading, unloading guns. If you're a hunter, then obviously youll be using different guns and rifles. You should know how to use your gun for its purpose.
So you favor lots of public ranges to increase opportunities for shooting
quote:
3. An 100-150 question examination about gun use, laws, situations, the particular gun you own, etc. This would be another way to deter the dumb from owning guns and to make sure that those in possession are fully aware of the responsibilities required to own a gun.
Is this like passing a questionnaire before being allowed to vote?
Posted on 10/1/15 at 6:50 pm to jordan21210
quote:
2nd Amendment was also written at a time when "arms" = flintlocks.
this is an outright lie
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