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LoneStar23
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Report: Google Sought Greater Control over Research Writings
It makes sense why they want you to trust the science so much. Google is manipulating it.

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The new review process aims to identify subjects that could be considered “sensitive” for the company. In at least three cases, Google officials asked writers not to show its technology in a bad light, Reuters reported. The news agency said its report was based on Google documents it was able to examine, as well as information from researchers involved in the work.

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The new process for “sensitive” subjects adds more careful study to Google’s usual review process for research papers, eight current and past employees said.

One subject considered “sensitive” was how some of Google’s machine learning-powered services might be biased against some groups of people. Other subjects included the oil industry, China, Iran, Israel, COVID-19, home security, location data, religion, self-driving vehicles, telecommunications and systems designed to suggest websites



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For some projects, Google officials intervened later in the research. Earlier this year, a Google official reviewing a study on content suggestion technology told the writers to “take great care to strike a positive tone,” documents provided to Reuters showed.

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Four researchers, including scientist Margaret Mitchell, said they believe Google is starting to interfere with important studies on the possible harms of technology.

“If we are researching the appropriate thing given our expertise, and we are not permitted to publish that on grounds that are not in line with high-quality peer review, then we’re getting into a serious problem of censorship,” Mitchell said.




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theunknownknight
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And this should surprise absolutely no one


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Centinel
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It’s ok because Google thinks correctly.


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hombreman9
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This is exactly how the CCP operates.


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Strannix
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Google should have been fined into bankruptcy and broken up 5 years ago.


dandyjohn
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Facebook, Amazon, Google (Alphabet) should be subject to Antitrust lawsuits.

This is an issue that left and right agree on, they are Monopoly powers and control what information we do or don't see, and frankly, are the exact reasons we're in this bizarre world where we don't even agree to basic facts.

Amazon also just legitimately kills their competitors.


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This is also why it's important to learn how to be a good consumer of research. Don't go by what's posted in some media article. Access the original research so you can see who is producing it, if any industries have a hand in it (they have to disclose funding from a conflicting source), and if has been replicated across multiple populations.


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Salmon
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believe Google is starting to interfere with important studies on the possible harms of technology.


Google, a technology company, is interfering with negative studies about technology

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“If we are researching the appropriate thing given our expertise, and we are not permitted to publish that on grounds that are not in line with high-quality peer review, then we’re getting into a serious problem of censorship,” Mitchell said.


Unfortunately, this sort of shite has been happening in academia for a while.

Petty personal squabbles will keep papers from getting published at times.


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BorrisMart
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Too bad that link has been fact checked and the fact checker says false.


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Google, a technology company, is interfering with negative studies about technology


Unpossible. Google is one of the good guys. They only want what's best for us.



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Day Wisher
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Facebook, Amazon, Google (Alphabet) should be subject to Antitrust lawsuits.


Amazon held a bigger percentage of global e-commerce in 2017 (around 23%) than it does now. 2021 is estimated to be just under 16% control of the e-commerce market. If you're going to penalize companies for controlling just 16% of a market you're not penalizing a monopoly, you're penalizing success.

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This is an issue that left and right agree on


Fools come in all stripes.



ithad2bme
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This part of the story is the scariest to me.

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Ethics and AI

Disagreements between Google and some of its employees broke into public view this month after research scientist Timnit Gebru said she had been fired by the company. Gebru, along with Mitchell, led a 12-person team that studied ethics, or moral decisions, in artificial intelligence (AI) software.

Gebru says she was fired after questioning an order not to publish research claiming that AI software that copies speech could hurt some groups.


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gthog61
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Amazon held a bigger percentage of global e-commerce in 2017 (around 23%) than it does now. 2021 is estimated to be just under 16% control of the e-commerce market. If you're going to penalize companies for controlling just 16% of a market you're not penalizing a monopoly, you're penalizing success.



Now do their percentage of the sectors of e-commerce they actually participate in.

Idiots come in all stripes, amirite?


kywildcatfanone
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Google, facebook, MS, twitter, are all arms of the democratic party. This shouldn't surprise anyone.


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Day Wisher
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Now do their percentage of the sectors of e-commerce they actually participate in.


Nah, you can do your own research. Let me know where they have a 75%+ control of a specific market.

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Idiots come in all stripes, amirite?


Obviously.



Clames
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Let me know where they have a 75%+ control of a specific market.




Let me make this easier for you, you simple-minded cretin; it's not just about the level market control but their practices to maintain any level of control as well as practices that force sellers to use Amazon's logistics resources. Let us all know when you do some actual reading up on this topic and stop licking windows.


Day Wisher
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You've got to work a bit on your rhetoric, Clames.



Clames
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You need to work on your schtick, tired and unoriginal.


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