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re: Regarding college degree choices, is going into IT/Computer Science smart?

Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:34 pm to
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
38863 posts
Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:34 pm to
Awesome..someone else mentioned those

Thanks lg
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
38863 posts
Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:35 pm to
Well I'm having an issue finding jobs at the moment

Waiting to hear back from a 2nd Interview from a week ago
Posted by chrome_daddy
LA (Lower Ashvegas)
Member since May 2004
2466 posts
Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:39 pm to
You are getting some pretty good advice. I'm an old hand at IT, been an IT manager for Fortune 100 companies for 20 years this year, hired tons of people, CS degree from LSU in 89. I'm involved with hiring entry level folks out of college now...I'm telling you an attitude for INNOVATION is what we look for.

Yeah, I was always a Unix / C bigot, hated Microsoft & Apple. HOWEVER, i'm friends with lots of recruiters and .NET is the way to go for entry level people.

Do this:
Buy the two Smart System .NET books, go through them and then go for a certification.

The advice around learning SQL is critical.

You can download MS Visual Studio Express and SQLSvr Express for free...they have all the tools you'll need for FREE!

Also, consider learning some project management / AGILE development / Scrum skills.

And above all, be positive! You can do it!
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10479 posts
Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:42 pm to
quote:

Is going into IT smart?

In today's world, you have to ask this question, then I can only give you one quote:
"I have a pool and a pond. The pond will be good enough for you."
Posted by Beradrebel
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
194 posts
Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:43 pm to
My path was working for a industrial construction company when I graduated then crossing over to working for engineering firms.

You should be able to get on with a major construction company like Turner Industries, Performance, Cajun, ISC etc. They hire in graduates by the droves because they like to train their new hires in large groups.
Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2006
9889 posts
Posted on 5/10/16 at 10:01 pm to
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You should be able to get on with a major construction company like Turner Industries, Performance, Cajun, ISC etc. They hire in graduates by the droves because they like to train their new hires in large groups.


Not a bad idea if you're wanting to stay somewhat local. All of the above companies have a ton of work for the next 5 or so years in Lake Charles. By the time that boom is over, hopefully the upstream market will have rebounded.

All depends on what you're looking to do.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 5/10/16 at 10:03 pm to
IT is becoming a race to the bottom. If I could do it all over again I would have gone into engineering. If you go into IT be a programmer.

IT infrastructure and data centers will be mostly self healing, automatically configured, and drastically outsourced to the cloud over the next 10-15 years. Companies that need 20 infrastructure guys today will only need the equivalent of 1 or 2 through managed clouds in 15 years. Everything will have an "easy" button.
This post was edited on 5/10/16 at 10:11 pm
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42443 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:11 am to
If you don't mind sharing, who was that with?
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
23419 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:17 am to
quote:

IT is becoming a race to the bottom. If I could do it all over again I would have gone into engineering. If you go into IT be a programmer.


Even that I'd be cautious about. Programmers are generally overworked and underpaid in the industry today.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36368 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:40 am to
quote:

actually if you never want to worry about having a job get a nursing degree and then use your IT knowledge to land RN IT jobs. The industry is dying for clinical people with IT backgrounds to develop, implement, and manage EHR systems.


This is a great field, but he's pretty far off in the needed education. He has no healthcare background and no IT background.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 9:03 am to
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VermilionTiger


IronNet Cyberscurity


I know the guys at IronNet. It's a startup that is booming and my understanding is that they're doing cutting edge stuff in cyber security. I know people at a couple other cyber security firms in Northern Virginia. These guys are making an outstanding salary. Of course, you have to put in the time to get there but the reward is worth it IMO.

Note: This is just an example of listings in the area.
This post was edited on 5/11/16 at 9:23 am
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 9:04 am to
quote:

College is an intersection with 3 paths: a hard science, selling shite to people or not making any money. Choose wisely.


very unique way of putting it
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 9:06 am to
My son has his Bachelor's degree in IT field with a lot of certifications, then got Masters in Cyber Security. Now works for the government - $72K @ 24 years old. Not too shabby.

Posted by lsufanintexas
Member since Sep 2006
5099 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 9:30 am to
I am at the point in my it career where I want a change. I have been doing it since I was 15 and have hit the top of the pay scale. Quite frankly there is no challenge anymore except to fend off younger and younger people smarter than me. Only other option is starting my own consulting company.

I personally want to do something else. Probably something with my hands. Hell I thought about going back to school to become a dentist.

Point is working with computers/technology All the time has become boring.


Good luck man.
Posted by WW
Member since Dec 2013
2598 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 9:31 am to
quote:


This is a great field, but he's pretty far off in the needed education. He has no healthcare background and no IT background
quote:

Epic Cajun


What would you recommend for someone with and unrelated degree that is Epic certified on the Revenue cycle side?? I just want to improve as an employee and make myself more viable to our organization.
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
38863 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 9:36 am to
Ill share after I get the job or not
Posted by bowelprojections
Member since Dec 2012
194 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 9:38 am to
You don't need a degree in IT to work in IT. Try becoming a business analyst or an IT project manager. But yeah, lots of jobs available in IT
Posted by lsufanintexas
Member since Sep 2006
5099 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 9:42 am to
If you want job security go into it security or it project management.

I have my cissp and get calls from recruiters all the time offering minimum 175k. I'm in cloud architecture design now but as someone said earlier that will be going away in a few years. Hell I work for a company doing machine learning in order to make that "easy button".
This post was edited on 5/11/16 at 9:48 am
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36368 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 10:08 am to
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What would you recommend for someone with and unrelated degree that is Epic certified on the Revenue cycle side?? I just want to improve as an employee and make myself more viable to our organization.


I would recommend cross training and learning the workflows of patient access (if you don't already have that). Knowing the front end workflows really helps to troubleshoot possible issues on the back-end billing cycle. Project management skills are also key if you want to move up the ladder.

I'm sure you already know this, but Epic certifications are very valuable.

ETA: an MBA is valuable if you want to get into project leadership
This post was edited on 5/11/16 at 10:10 am
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
15100 posts
Posted on 5/11/16 at 10:14 am to
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ow works for the government - $72K @ 24 years old. Not too shabby.



good for his age. that's about entry level for infosec salary so he'll only go up
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