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re: Red River atchafalaya river name change?

Posted on 5/21/25 at 4:01 pm to
Posted by white perch
the bright, happy side of hell
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/21/25 at 4:01 pm to
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Why isn't the Mississippi River called the Louisiana River?


Because Louisiana doesn’t mean big river.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
83846 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 4:02 pm to
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Because Louisiana doesn’t mean big river.


it does in Swahili
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
1671 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 7:04 pm to
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Because the Old River Control Structure calls the shots. You got a problem, take it up with the ORCS.


The ORCS became necessary as a result of Capt Shreve's decision to connect the three rivers. The original FAFO in terms man trying to destroy LA's coastline.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
8240 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 7:46 pm to
Red doesn’t flow into the MS river. Outflow from the flood control system allows 30% of the MS river to flow into the Red River just above where it flows into the Atchafalaya. A small portion of that 30% from the MS river may come from the Lower Old River connection between the MS and the Atchafalaya, but I am not sure on that.

A long time ago (but at least by the 15th century) the MS meandered and took over the Red River which had run parallel to each other all the way to the gulf and then a short distance later the MS distributed some into the former path of the Red River creating what was then called the Atchafalaya at the time by Indians.

Shreve’s Cut in 1830s choked that connection creating upper Old River which eventually lost any connection from the MS to the Red and the lower Old River between the MS and Atchafalaya which flowed back and forth based on level of each.

A long standing log jam was then cleared in the lower Old River and opened up the lower connection which then started taking a lot of River to the Atchafalaya. Fear of the entire River shifting to that path is reason for the multiple flood control structures built after awhile near that area and below it.
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 7:52 pm
Posted by 308
the backwoods of Mississippi
Member since Sep 2020
2660 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 7:55 pm to
iirc, the flow of the Missouri is greater than the flow of the Mississippi where the two merge, and the name below that should go to the larger river at the merger point.

Thus the Mississippi (south of where they merge) should really be the Missouri.

But I could be wrong,
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
39241 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 8:17 pm to
It has 2 names just so you would ask in a thread
Posted by Kafka
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 5/21/25 at 8:20 pm to
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River of America














At Lafayette
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
8240 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 8:53 pm to
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iirc, the flow of the Missouri is greater than the flow of the Mississippi where the two merge, and the name below that should go to the larger river at the merger point.

Thus the Mississippi (south of where they merge) should really be the Missouri.

But I could be wrong,


That’s probably the Ohio River not Missouri. I think it’s close with Missouri, but the MS River flood control plan has the MS River coming in with more.

Everything flows in from east or west for the Ms river basin, and after the French or whoever named it and then later used as the western boundary of the US after one Treaty of Paris it was set in US law and subsequent laws involving the river.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
125961 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:02 pm to
Ouachita River
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
19538 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 12:41 am to
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Same with oceans.

The oceans don't know they are different. Hell, in fact they think they are the same. It stupid men who gave them different names.
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
7280 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 2:01 am to
Make Atchafalaya Great Again
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
2151 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 2:12 am to
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the Ouachita River also found itself succumbing to the Red River's wrath

Not quite, the Ouachita and Tensas form the Black River at Jonesville. It's the Black that makes it to the Red.
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
9607 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:07 am to
I have been to and inside the Hydro-Power Plant...and it is cool as hell.

Up there with being inside the Spire of The Empire State Building.
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