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re: Red meat is good for you, per science.

Posted on 12/21/16 at 11:28 am to
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 11:28 am to
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No thanks I'm not gay


..it's not negotiable. Eat it.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
21030 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 11:36 am to
About time. My wife has been amazed for decades that my cholesterol, blood pressure and sugar levels are all better than hers and on the low side of the norms.

She eats virtually no beef and I grill myself a steak at least 3 nights a week. And I never eat salads.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 11:51 am to
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Red meat is good for you, per science. (According to tabloid article with no citations)
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69636 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 12:21 pm to
I honestly have a horrible diet and eat whatever I want (tons of meat of all kinds) and my blood pressure and heart rate are still perfect.

The key is being mobile and not sedentary ALL the time. Even if you just walk, stay active.
Posted by biggsc
Member since Mar 2009
34777 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 12:26 pm to
No shite
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/21/16 at 12:29 pm to
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Fatties gave it a bad rep.



Eating processed fats and massive amounts of sodium is a problem.

Eating quality cuts of red meat are never bad for you.
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 12:31 pm to
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Sure. Eat a ton of pork ribs and it's a guaranteed heart attack in the making.


quote:

That way of thinking is what's gotten Americans on the wrong side of health and is what is now changing.


If you think you can eat lots of pork ribs and not have that negatively affect your health, you are full of shite. And pork shite really stinks.

But eat away, lardass, they'll need a forklift to get you to the grave.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
73727 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 12:34 pm to
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f you think you can eat lots of pork ribs and not have that negatively affect your health, you are full of shite. And pork shite really stinks. But eat away, lardass, they'll need a forklift to get you to the grave.


A 55 lb loss and improved lipid panel after 2 years on keto says otherwise, champ.

But you keep eating your sugar and breads while those arteries continue to become inflamed.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 12:37 pm to
What is keto? Give me the high level bullet points.

Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24440 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 12:39 pm to
Red meat is the same as salt and sugar, its not bad for you to eat as long as the rest of you is healthy especially if you exercise. But once you are already fat, they are all 3 bad for you and then cause further issues.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
73727 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 12:44 pm to
-High fat
-Moderate protein
-Low carbs (under 20 grams)
-Liver transitions into ketosis, which burns fat instead of glucose--resulting in super efficient weight loss
Posted by torrey225
Member since Mar 2015
1437 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 12:45 pm to
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the original studies that linked meat to heart disease involved people primarily eating processed meat

steak: good

salami: bad

roast: good

bacon: bad

it's not red meat; it's processed red meat, stupid



Correlation is not causation.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 12:51 pm to
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-High fat
-Moderate protein
-Low carbs (under 20 grams)
-Liver transitions into ketosis, which burns fat instead of glucose--resulting in super efficient weight loss



So how is this different than Atkins?

And quantify 20 grams of carbs in terms of actual food. Is that like a single serving of mac n cheese?

Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9318 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 12:51 pm to
bullshite - There are people out there that are literally eating just meat and drinking water. They thrive on just meat. No veggies, no bread, no sugar. Eat all the salt you want....that isn't what is killing you.

Beef isn't going to make you fat. You can stuff yourself and it won't make you fat. Believe me, I've done it for 3 months. Currently carnivore again, though not stuffing myself, and my lipid profile is as good as it gets. I don't have sugar crashes or feel tired after lunch. My anxiety is under control. I feel less stressed. You don't need as much vitamin C as you think, scurvy isn't a problem with enough fat. Go watch the movie "The Reverent" with Dicaprio, go read up on indians and the pemican trade (they didn't mix berries in it btw).

Don't pedal your "exercise equates healthy" bs. You can be healthy and not exercise, you can exercise and not be healthy.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 12:53 pm to
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You can be healthy and not exercise


I mean, this is kind of bullshite. Sedentary lifestyle with no cardio is not good for you. I can eat the best diet imaginable and never elevate my heart rate via cardio/moving around and I would not be healthy.



Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
73727 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 12:59 pm to
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So how is this different than Atkins?



It's actually very similar to the introductory stage of Atkins.

quote:

And quantify 20 grams of carbs in terms of actual food. Is that like a single serving of mac n cheese?



Simplified, it'd be about 1 of those bags of steamed greens such as broccoli or green beans (or 2 bags of asparagus).
Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 12/21/16 at 1:42 pm to
How much fruit can you eat on keto? I like a good grean smoothie with super food powder and plant based protein. I usually throw a banana and a few raspberries in it too. And kale. Drink for breakfast and mid afternoon snack. Don't do this very often but am planning on doing it every day soon.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
73727 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 1:50 pm to
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How much fruit can you eat on keto?


Not much if any.

I think you can have a few blueberries or some such but, basically, forget about it.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 2:01 pm to
So you can't eat starches, you can't eat many vegetables and you can't eat any fruit.

What the frick can you eat? Just meat? Eggs? Can you eat beans?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24440 posts
Posted on 12/21/16 at 2:08 pm to
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Eat all the salt you want....that isn't what is killing you.


Maybe I phrased it poorly I don't know. I said that red meat, salt, and sugar are not inherently bad for you while you are at a good to moderate weight. Once you are fat and unhealthy though, those three are very bad.

Are you disagreeing that salt is bad for blood pressure? I'm not a doctor but I'm pretty sure that is universally accepted. It was previously thought that high salt was a possible cause of high blood pressure, but that is no longer commonly accepted.
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