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re: Recorded a traffic stop earlier. Officer made me turn it off.

Posted on 6/10/14 at 8:27 am to
Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
7235 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 8:27 am to
why was it necessary for him to pat you down?
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25655 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:04 am to
You are allowed to record cops.

On the other hand, you cooperating with him is probably why you got a warning and not a ticket.
Posted by The People
LSU Alumni
Member since Aug 2008
4253 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:09 am to
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my rental


quote:

Interstate 10


quote:

4 mph over the limit



This smells like a narcotics highway interdiction traffic stop. You weren't who he was looking for, hence the warning.
Posted by The People
LSU Alumni
Member since Aug 2008
4253 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:09 am to
Duplicate.
This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 9:10 am
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
19174 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:18 am to
The "turn off the recorder" thing is BS but everyone harping on the 4 MPH over thing are wrong as well. Over the speed limit is over the speed limit whether you like it or not. Hitting someone for 27 in a 25 on a neighborhood street is bull but on the interstate you know damn well how fast you are going. They raised the speeds to 75 because 65 was too slow in modern cars. If they don't enforce the limit then what is the point? I set my cruise and go. Doesn't excuse the other thing but don't act like the officer was doing something illegal in stopping him.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:23 am to
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So you were trying to be "that guy".


No not at all.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
15672 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:32 am to
Just be happy you left the dog at home.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:32 am to
Did you request that he turn his off too?
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
87281 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:35 am to
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Whenever I am stopped I always get out of the car immediately


That's one of the worst ideas I've ever heard. I know you mean well of course, but he doesn't. When you're pulled over and instantly get out of the car he has no idea if you're about to pull a weapon, come confront him, etc.

The best thing you can do, IMO, when being pulled over is roll down your windows, turn off the car, and put your hands on the steering wheel where he can see. If it's night, turn on the dome lights. It may sound submissive or whatever, but from his perspective, he has, literally, NO idea who you are or what's going through your mind. When he's approaching the window, anything you can do to appear non-threatening is another point in your favor in hopefully just getting a warning.

The first time I ever got pulled over (it was for speeding), I was a teenager and it was at night and he asked me to get out of the car (it was a pretty cool car and I was going pretty fast). I was nervous as all hell so I put my hands in my pockets and he instantly told me to take them out. It seemed dumb at the time but I certainly understand the reason behind it.
Posted by beaver
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Member since Sep 2009
46861 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:36 am to
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The United States Supreme Court disagrees.


actually, they haven't quite weighed in on the matter

however, it is assumed this would hold true
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:37 am to
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when being pulled over is roll down your windows


only low enough to allow you to hand him things. Then lock the doors.

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, turn off the car, and put your hands on the steering wheel where he can see. If it's night, turn on the dome lights


agreed.


If he does ask you to get out of the car, roll up the windows all the way, and after existing the vehicle close and lock the door.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:38 am to
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Did you request that he turn his off too?


Huh?
Posted by CaptainsWafer
TD Platinum Member
Member since Feb 2006
58525 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:39 am to
I'm still waiting to hear what all these e-bad asses would have done in your situation.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:41 am to
I understand I should have pressed the issue further but as I said earlier, given the situation it wasn't in my best interest.

Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
87281 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:41 am to
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If he does ask you to get out of the car, roll up the windows all the way, and after existing the vehicle close and lock the door


why?
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:43 am to
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why?


leaving the door open is the same as leaving your house door open, it implies ability to search.

The advice i gave is directly from the ACLU website.
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14377 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:43 am to
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I'm still waiting to hear what all these e-bad asses would have done in your situation.
probably called their mommy or daddy to come get them.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
87281 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:44 am to
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leaving the door open is the same as leaving your house door open


who said anything about leaving it open? You said to roll the windows up and lock the doors.

What would be the difference in just shutting the door behind you normally?
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:46 am to
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What would be the difference in just shutting the door behind you normally?



open windows, or an unlocked door have been construed as implied consent for a search.

Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
23165 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:50 am to
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The United States Supreme Court disagrees.

I didn't read every post; but is there a link for this?
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