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re: Recent nixed projects in Baton Rouge area and future development

Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117154 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:34 pm to
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I would guess once they got the ball rolling and communicated with the clowns we have in local government, they realized they didn't want the headache


Ding!
Posted by FunroePete
The Big Cheezy
Member since Dec 2012
1531 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 2:34 pm to
Buccees is going to lafayette baws. Lafayette >BR
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38229 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:33 pm to
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Alamo's no tolerance policy for disruptive patrons is worth the price of admission by itself. They wouldn't tolerate that BR culcha BS.


I don't care how aggressive they are, they can't keep the culcha element out of their establishment. Once that element is present, the element you want in an establishment leaves. That is definitely a BR phenomenon. ADH might have put up a good fight, but once the thugs got in the door, the decent folk would have stayed away and the place would turn to shite. Book it.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78662 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 3:41 pm to
Main Event fell through
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18919 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:02 pm to
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BR has the potential to grow into a bigger and more developed city,


The elephant in the room is how to unclog our roads. If we can do that it will help fuel growth.

Baton Rouge has a wonderful park and library system. LSU sports in many aspects of the overall experience rivals that of pro teams. Renewed development of downtown is creating a nice destination for businesses and nightlife that has a lot of room to grow.

There are actually nice local restaurants throughout the city, but they are interspersed. It really goes with the lack of cohesive city planning and urban sprawl. You look at the urban decay along Florida Blvd, and there is actually a ton of land there to set up a main drag for the city. The mayor says she wants to bring jobs to NBR. I really think it starts on Florida.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
15937 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:05 pm to
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I don't care how aggressive they are, they can't keep the culcha element out of their establishment. Once that element is present, the element you want in an establishment leaves. That is definitely a BR phenomenon. ADH might have put up a good fight, but once the thugs got in the door, the decent folk would have stayed away and the place would turn to shite. Book it.


I still think they'd try like hell to keep the thugs out. We don't have much culcha in Austin, thank God.

I seem to recall a martini bar in downtown BR that eventually became so overrun with culcha that paying customers stayed away and it closed.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38229 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:12 pm to
my point exactly. BR is a strange place when it comes to "eclectic" crowds. Most places do OK till the wrong crowd starts showing up, then its all over. Its weird.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18919 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:13 pm to
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I seem to recall a martini bar in downtown BR that eventually became so overrun with culcha that paying customers stayed away and it closed.


I doubt I'll get a straight answer, but when you say "culcha" do you mean black people in general or low-class riff raff that are black?

This is a serious question, as I frequently see posts on here that elude to the presence of any black people as a problem. Yet, everyone on here claims to not be racist.

Which is it?
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
3979 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:16 pm to
I'd give up my left nut for a Buc-ee's. Went to one on my way out of Houston and it blew my mind. I'm jealous of you Texas peeps y'all get shite figured out over there so long as the Messicans don't start out voting you.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78005 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:19 pm to
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I wouldn't say that BR's economic climate is good, but it's definitely not bad. It's better than most cities of similar size.
Ummm...it is pretty shitty, and if that is better than most cities of similar size, America is fricked.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18919 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:23 pm to
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Ummm...it is pretty shitty, and if that is better than most cities of similar size, America is fricked.


That's because everyone is too busy posting on the OT to actually get anything done.
Posted by Rossberg02
Member since Jun 2016
2591 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 4:40 pm to
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You left off the Florida Blvd. Bingo Hall


Funniest shite I've read all day. Cannot stop laughing at this.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78662 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 5:21 pm to
There were several publications right after the Great Recession of 2008 lauding Baton Rouge's resilient economy. Not sure what happened. Everyone wants to blame it on barrel of oil production and prices.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71182 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 5:29 pm to
BR would instantly become the best mid-sized city in the South if we could somehow fix the traffic, the crime, and the schools. Those three things, more than anything else, deter investment and development. The problem is all 3 of those things are difficult and expensive to fix and often require overcoming huge hurdles from local NIMBY's and SJW's, the state bureaucracy, and the federal government.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71182 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 5:36 pm to
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There were several publications right after the Great Recession of 2008 lauding Baton Rouge's resilient economy. Not sure what happened. Everyone wants to blame it on barrel of oil production and prices.


Baton Rouge's resilience was due to federal Katrina money, state government jobs, and oil jobs, both of which remained strong, but, when the price of oil went from $100/barrel to $30/barrel (now $50), the state
Began slashing jobs and budgets. Refiners and petrochemical plants began tableing future projects. Next, the shootings by police and of police and the subsequent protests created the national perception of a racist, lawless city. Then, the flood hit and devastated small businesses and wreaked havoc on home owners. Finally, a new mayor was elected who appointed racial aggrandizers to promonant positions in her administration.

The inmates are running the asylum and the economy is in the toilet. There's not much to be optimistic about. Either BR will overcome this and become a great city, or we have pushed passed the peak and are now at the start of a Jackson, MS-esque decline.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41652 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 5:43 pm to
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fix the traffic, the crime, and the schools.


Oh, that's all?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41652 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 5:45 pm to
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I doubt I'll get a straight answer, but when you say "culcha" do you mean black people in general or low-class riff raff that are black?

This is a serious question, as I frequently see posts on here that elude to the presence of any black people as a problem. Yet, everyone on here claims to not be racist.

Which is it?


There are plenty of black people who would be welcomed with open arms in such an establishment. Plenty.

But we need honest discussions to fix honest problems.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71182 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 5:47 pm to
Culcha is the poor people on entitlements who sell drugs, commit massive amounts of shoplifting, burglarize houses and businesses, commit election fraud, back corrupt "community leaders", and commit violent crimes.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18919 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 5:49 pm to
Unfortunately crime and the school system in BR both have the same socioeconomic issue.

I've met with faculty at an underperforming school in EBR and watched them work with the students. It's largely not the teachers, but the poor attitude of the students.

These kids burn out in HS and often become part of the crime problem.

A massive cultural shift is needed. Yes these kids need more opportunities but they also need motivation at home.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41652 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 5:51 pm to
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Culcha is the poor people on entitlements who sell drugs, commit massive amounts of shoplifting, burglarize houses and businesses, commit election fraud, back corrupt "community leaders", and commit violent crimes.


Yes. And while they come from all races and backgrounds, it sure seems one race has a larger percentage of these individuals than what would be expected if it was statistcally distributed according to race in general.
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