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re: Reading Comprehension "Housing Recession" does not mean "Home Prices Dropping"

Posted on 11/1/23 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
14435 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 12:33 pm to
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Oooph….. maybe you should reread your Econ 101 textbook on what happens when an excess of goods are available and are not being sold.


I mean, touche LaFleur
Posted by EmmittLBrown
Member since Oct 2023
275 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 12:35 pm to
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excess of goods


As long as investors and foreign markets are buying houses, there will be no "excess of goods"
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38524 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 12:37 pm to
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Genuine question, but why not? Are home builders simply not building homes? Are we running out of real estate? Is the population in the US booming?



There are many factors but we've built way less houses over the past 15ish years, deteriorating conditions and/or STRs have made many previously livable areas either artificially expensive or very undesirable to live in, people who have no need to move are more than happy to not take on an 8% mortgage just for the hell of it (a gigantic percentage of existing mortgages are 4% or less).

There are a myriad of other factors as well but those are the big ones imo.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 12:38 pm to
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SDVTiger


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Registered on:11/4/2011


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12yrs


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Imagine still having a job after that amount of time with Ls


You posting is every bit the equal.
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
4371 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 12:43 pm to
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My house had more than doubled in "value" in the last 12 years


But now you have so much more equity to play with. You can take out 3 times the size of HELOC at 4 times the interest rate. The banks cannot lose!!
Posted by SneezyBeltranIsHere
Member since Jul 2021
3696 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 12:46 pm to
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Some of yall never took Econ 101 and it shows.


Well, if you are going to call people out in advance, here is my brief CV. I have 2 Bachelors (1 in Econ) and a Masters in Energy Economics.

Let me make this perfectly clear, you have no idea what you are talking about.
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
5284 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 12:59 pm to
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I beat stout here!


Are you sure? What if I told you that Stout beat all posters here. It might take a second but I have faith that you'll figure it out.
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
4065 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:58 pm to
Yep, a combination of most home owners refinancing and now home builders unable to finance building new homes plus sky high rates = high prices to stay in metros in demand. Rural areas will get crushed though.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
87313 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 1:59 pm to
Your 40 renting with 2k in the bank
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22480 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:10 pm to
The raw cost for a developer to build a 1500 sf house is well north of $300k… and they’re not gonna do it for free.

Until that drops significantly (and short of an 2008 style economic collapse, it’s not), home prices aren’t going anywhere.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:17 pm to
Hey man he

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was very financially irresponsible early on in life, learned some hard lessons


We should just ignore this and let him continue to shitbag troll without any blowback.

The threads started link should have put an end to some of the worst trolls on here like Early but he is such a stain irl that it doesnt matter.
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3670 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 2:33 pm to
Just uploaded monthly material costs. My cost to build dropped .05%. Material costs are still hanging on a bit.

Labor costs are stagnant as of now.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 3:30 pm to
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Your


Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
87313 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 3:38 pm to
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The threads started link should have put an end to some of the worst trolls on here like Early but he is such a stain irl that it doesnt matter.


Yeah hes the worst. I love how he acts like hes smart yet begged for advice on the money board

Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 3:42 pm to
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when an excess of goods are available


Where is this "excess of goods?" The only thing that will happen is builders pull back on development projects and current homeowners choose not to sell due to rates on their next purchase. Not gonna be an "excess."
Posted by AirbusDawg
Milton, Ga
Member since Jan 2018
2752 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 3:55 pm to
But yet his answer got 75 up votes. Shows how stupid people are. Builders these days aren't building as many homes because they don't have to. The margins in construction right now are double or triple what they were 5 years ago. People are so eager to buy a house or start a home improvement project, they will pay whoever can get it finished the quickest. They don't give two shits how much it cost. It's the craziest thing I've ever seen.
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 3:56 pm
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
36532 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 4:00 pm to



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Shows how stupid people are. Builders these days aren't building as many homes because they don't have to.


Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 4:01 pm to
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Yeah hes the worst.


Considering the source, what a huge compliment.
Posted by Fletch1985
Member since Jun 2020
324 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 4:07 pm to
Home prices in the roughly $500k to $900k range are falling in many areas. The mortgage math doesn’t hit as hard at lower and above that range is often cash buyers. But the math prevents that move up buyer from paying as much so sellers in that range are cutting to move their properties.

Of course most of them are still deep in the money because prices ran up so much, but if you are a forced seller that bought in the last couple of years you are probably losing money.

And the regular disclaimer that all real estate is local so making big generalizations is dangerous.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
87313 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 4:11 pm to
Please tell us how PMI is bad and how you will never own a home cause you will never have 20% down
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