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re: Rare look at Elvis Presley recording "Always On My Mind" in 1972

Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:34 am to
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:34 am to
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It’s a shame we didn’t get to see the old-man grizzled Elvis singing Johnny Cash-style Country/Folk Music.


I can't see him that old, I've even read a few article, book excerpts, that he never envisioned growing old, not suicidal, just didn't think he'd be around that long
Posted by Amadeo
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:21 am to
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Elvis Presley

He is in the following Hall of Fames:

Rock And Roll
Country Music
Rockabilly
Gospel
Honky Tonk

Yeah...like that's going to happen again.

He was so much The King that even the King of Pop had to marry his daughter just so he could be in the royal court. Sometimes I can't believe this dude actually existed.
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:42 am to
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If I could see any performer alive or dead. I would choose Elvis. But I struggle with whether I would want to see early Elvis or Vegas Elvis


Correct answer is right when he started being Vegas Elvis. He was on his game from the 68 Special till about ‘72.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:43 am to
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He was on his game from the 68 Special till about ‘72.

these are the facts and they are undisputed
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:46 am to
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these are the facts and they are undisputed


The 3 octave range is questioned however. I did read 2-1/3 octave. Regardless, his work within that range is stunning.

He is every bit the King just as much as Arnold Palmer was the king, regardless of Nicklaus and Woods and everyone else. It goes beyond numbers.
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:47 am to
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He was on his game from the 68 Special till about ‘72.


quote:

these are the facts and they are undisputed


Those American Sound Studio sessions he did in Memphis in 1969 with Chips Moman producing are the best work he ever did. Not just the classics that came out of them that everyone knows like “Suspicious Minds” or “In The Ghetto”, either. EVERYTHING was incredible.
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:48 am to
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The 3 octave range is questioned however.


yeah, I don't know how it could be verified now, never heard him hit any super low notes and he loved the bass and bass singers, loved to hear J.D. Sumner rattle the walls
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:50 am to
Now Roy Orbison... Whew!!!
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
87715 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:50 am to
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Now Roy Orbison... Whew!!!


definitely could get up there
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:50 am to
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The 3 octave range is questioned however. I did read 2-1/3 octave. Regardless, his work within that range is stunning.


Yeah, Freddie Mercury had the easy 3 octave range. Elvis might have touched on that early on in his career (the way he could modulate his voice on his Sun and early RCA stuff was phenomenal), but later on, it wasn’t effortless like that.
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:57 am to
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. EVERYTHING was incredible.


another thing about his popularity at the time was the political climate in the US, VN war at its peak, Elvis was now viewed as a part of the "establishment," hard rock and heavy metal was in, when he went to Vegas that was one of the toughest tickets to score, celebrities from all over the world dropped what they were doing and went to Vegas to see his shows
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87132 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:59 am to
You guys have got me wanting to pack a small bag and truck it on up to Graceland for the weekend now. It’s been about 3 years since I went.
Posted by ConfusedHawgInMO
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:00 am to
My mom had all the old Elvis records when I was a kid, but my favorite was always the 1974 Live at the Midsouth Coliseum album. I could probably still recite that thing down to his stage raps and all.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:02 am to
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The man is iconic, but vocally, not very good.

Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
87715 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:03 am to
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It’s been about 3 years since I went.


haven't been in a long time, stopped by there to look at the airplanes a couple of years ago and the area looked completely different, I don't care how hokey everybody thinks it is, I like going there
Posted by Champagne
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:08 am to
Yeah, that's what I read -- Elvis's "handlers" and advisers made him dye his dark brown hair VERY early in his career -- 1956 sounds right.
Posted by brokelikeajoke
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:21 am to
LINK

Watch this video of him do unchained melody if you want to experience a true 5 octave vocal range. About halfway through he gives a smirk that speaks "i am the best that ever lived."

Play video through high quality headphones or a better than decent 2ch setup for maximum effect.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:31 am to
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It’s a shame we didn’t get to see the old-man grizzled Elvis singing Johnny Cash-style Country/Folk Music.


Try this one...
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:31 am to
I prefer completely shitfaced Elvis: LINK
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 11:31 am to
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, but vocally, not very good.


This is silly. From a "technical" standpoint, he had good natural instincts (despite having really good pitch, he was willing to sign off key if the song called for it) and a decent natural singing voice, with an impressive range. He surrounded himself (or the Colonel did) with staggeringly good (for pop music) musicians and singers and this helped. He also had the ability to (kind of) sing, naturally as a tenor, baritone and bass (albeit not a particularly deep or resonating bass, but it was serviceable).

It also helped that he recognized, very early, that he was going to have to work at his craft. He almost instinctively anticipated both the ravages of time and improvements in recording technology that required him to continue to improve.

He worked on his voice all the time through his late 20s and early 30s (like the movie era).

I agree that his voice really peaked in that late 60s/early 70s era and the decline really wasn't that noticeable in the months leading up to his death.

Terry Blackwood (a really impressive singer, BTW) said:

"He would probably be considered a baritone, but he could reach notes that most baritone singers could not. Much of his abilities emanated from a very intense desire to execute a song as he wanted to do it, which meant that he really sang higher than he would normally be able to. When the adrenalin is going, and the song is really pumping, you can get into that mode where you can actually do things, vocally, that you couldn’t normally do. So he had a tremendous range because of his desire to excel and be better, and that’s why he could do a lot of things that most people couldn’t."

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