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re: Radiation or surgery for prostate cancer ?

Posted on 1/24/20 at 5:59 pm to
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 5:59 pm to
My father in law I believe had surgery and then radiation seeds? I remember he couldn't hold the grandkids for quite a while.

Go with your docs recs OR get a second opinion if you're not comfortable with him.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10666 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 6:23 pm to
I would recommend surgery and then radiation based on my father's experience. He was diagnosed at 55. He was advised to have hormone treatment and then surgery. He was diagnosed in November and had surgery in March after hormone treatment. I sincerely believe he got bad advice.

He had surgery and then was told 2.5 years later it was back. He didn't have radiation and he had chemotherapy. He was diagnosed in 1999 and died in 2010. I think he got bad advice and took it.



This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 6:24 pm
Posted by MBclass83
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
9344 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:36 pm to
Surgery. Can't get it up anymore but I'm alive.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3700 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:20 pm to
There is a book all men should read:HOW WE DO HARM by Otis Bradley,MD.He’s an oncologist and chief medical and scientific officer of the American Cancer Society.I am sure he is hated by urologists all over America.
Posted by Grinder
Member since Nov 2007
1807 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

Where is the best place to have treatment in Baton Rouge?


See Morris or Posner in Baton Rouge
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 9:21 pm
Posted by Grinder
Member since Nov 2007
1807 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

Surgery. Can't get it up anymore but I'm alive.


Go to your urologist and ask about an IPP. Don’t get the Boston Sci. You will be disappointed with the results.
Posted by Luke
1113 Chartres Street, NOLA
Member since Nov 2004
13402 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:27 pm to
Radiation and nuclear beans
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9449 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:33 pm to
Somehow I missed your first post.

Glad you are recovering well and the surgery went as expected. If you have complications after surgery, they usually show up pretty quickly. You're probably out of the woods. Hope you continue to have a quick and complete recovery.

My PSA was 17.1 and my Gleeson Score was 3+4=7. I was thinking I was going to have surgery, but the 2nd surgeon (who used the Da Vinci) kind of talked me out of it. He sent me to consult with a radiation oncologist and I couldn't be happier with the results (so far). No complaints.
Posted by cajun_tiger
Member since Jun 2012
221 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:33 pm to
After talking with my dad i recommended he do the surgery. The doc at MD said it had the best result on average with the greater chance of success. He had the surgery and the doc got it all. Good luck and god bless.
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
Hammond
Member since Oct 2007
16209 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 10:16 pm to
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If you are a man and on the earth long enough you’re prostate will frick you. Take it out.


How does removing the prostate affect your sex life?
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9766 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 10:51 pm to

How does removing the prostate affect your sex life?
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Depends if they "spare" the nerves that cause erections. That's why a very exerienced surgeon is preferred.

I flew to Baltimore to see one of John Hopkin's top doctors.

Cancer is gone, full bladder control, and erections are still a go.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
128950 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 10:53 pm to
My FIL did radiation and estrogen therapy.

Still no sign of it returning after 6-7 years.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 10:53 pm to
How old are you?

What’s your PSA?

My dad died of complications following prostate surgery.

They accidentally knocked a hole (fissure) in his “plumbing” that they didn’t catch. He became septic, had a couple of heart attacks, and died within 3 weeks of the procedure.
He was 78 and in fantastic shape going in.

This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 11:03 pm
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 10:54 pm to
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Had mine removed 3 weeks ago.


Was that first piss amazing?
Posted by LSUTigerDoc
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
580 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 12:39 am to
Please be careful in asking for other’s opinions regarding the treatment of prostate cancer. While some cases of prostate cancer may have both a surgical and a radiation option for therapy, most cases have a preferred and recommended treatment strategy. This is not as simple as a matter of preference.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12452 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 1:54 am to
I worked with a guy who did the radiation treatments. He is still alive. I know 3 who had the prostate removed. One died of cancer that spread and the other two had cancer a few years later that spread.Tough call, good luck. Cancer is horrible.
This post was edited on 1/25/20 at 1:57 am
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9344 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 6:54 am to
My dad had surgery followed up by radiation at around 70. He could still get it up without Viagra at 84
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
5735 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 7:24 am to
Know two men with this:
1 Did surgery in 99 in his 60's, lived to 82 with some PSA elevation later in life. Had surgical removal. Had some ED issues. Had to do the Hormone shots to keep PSA lower. Those sucked as it drained his energy.

2. Did radioactive seeds about the same age, still going. Not sure about ED issues with him.

I recall the timing of treatments can matter on what you can do later. I think Radiation first means you can't do surgery later for instance. I'm sure treatment has gotten better as time passes.
This post was edited on 1/25/20 at 7:25 am
Posted by TigerDL
Member since Nov 2017
123 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 7:30 am to
Be very careful listening to any of these my family member did this posts. Realize the pros and cons of each. ED rates and incontinence rates vary by modality and surgeon. Also realize that surgery may very well be followed by radiation depending on the results of pathology which could have then avoided surgery altogether.

I strongly recommend meeting with a good urologist and a good radiation oncologist and perhaps a second radiation oncologist. The good radiation oncologists will give you all the data and let you make the best decision. Many (not all) urologists lean straight to surgery since they are surgeons and there are many new articles noting that many patients are going to prostatectomy when radiation would be more appropriate.

If you want a tie breaker, meet with a medical oncologist since chemo doesn’t have a role in early stage disease. Given that if you are talking radiation and surgery you would not have metastatic disease, a medical oncologist would have no dog in the fight and could discuss pros and cons of each very objectively.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9449 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 7:34 am to
My understanding is that most urologists don't want to do a surgery after radiation treatments because of the tissue damage involved in radiation. My doctor claims to be among the only doctors in NO who will do a post radiation "salvage surgery", if necessary. I'm hoping I don't find out.
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