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re: Question about the Frisco track meet stabbing

Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:38 am to
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20980 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:38 am to
quote:

Say, that reminds me -- how's Kyle Rittenhouse doing these days?


Do you think the two contexts are even remotely similar? A HS track meet vs a riot in progress?
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:04 am to
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quote:

Take your emotion out of it and think like a defense attorney. Your job is to introduce doubt into the minds of the jurors.



And you need to think like a normal rational person.

A sleezy defense attorney can claim self defense all he wants.


All the defense has to do is introduce doubt into the mind of a single juror.

Then we end with either a hung jury or a lesser charge / conviction.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92203 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:14 am to
quote:

All the defense has to do is introduce doubt into the mind of a single juror.



depends on the rest of the jurors
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Member since Sep 2015
1234 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:24 am to
quote:

I already told you - my son is a prosecutor with no connection to this case. He told me what he sees as the likely outcome.

He definitely thinks like a prosecutor. And a good prosecutor thinks about how a good defense attorney might present his case.

Your emotion is preventing you from comprehending what I've been saying.


Respond if you want because I'm genuinely curious about the premeditation aspect.

Is bringing the knife the same as the intent to stab someone? Is the same as the intent to stab someone with the goal of killing them?

Regardless of the above, once the knife was brandished, what's the take on intent to kill then? Did he intentionally aim for heart? Did he just get lucky? Essentially, does the heat of the moment matter when comes to where he stabbed the victim?

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111333 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:28 am to
quote:

Supposedly there is some video of what happened out there, shocked it hasn't leaked out yet
It eventually will.

What does the video supposedly show?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74828 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:33 am to
quote:

Say, that reminds me -- how's Kyle Rittenhouse doing these days?


someone spent a lot of time on Reddit this weekend. thanks for the original take.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
9447 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 12:24 pm to
Sundown town seat.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26701 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

Bringing a weapon to a school was certainly voluntary.


Rule I live by, don’t bring a knife to a starter gun fight
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 12:36 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298927 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

how's Kyle Rittenhouse doing these days?


Alive,

The Pedo you support attacked him first and is dead



Kyle chose well.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96892 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

Kyle chose well.



Trudat. He might have a melon sized hole in his head had he not done what he did.

Perhaps the size of Grossnutz missing bicep
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20049 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 12:45 pm to
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He has 3.7 gpa so it’s excusable


Is this one of those schools that dont teach reading or writing I keep hearing about?
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39231 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 12:47 pm to
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quote:Never said it was against the law (it just goes to the premeditation) but anyone with two brain cells to rub together can decipher he went there intentionally to provoke.

Say, that reminds me -- how's Kyle Rittenhouse doing these days?

Wow, you really are stupid.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92203 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 12:48 pm to
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Is this one of those schools that dont teach reading or writing I keep hearing about?


if it's only a 3.7 in those hoity toity schools that means he's about a straight C student, upper GPAs are in the 6-7 range
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20049 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

GPAs are in the 6-7 range


Literally the gayest thing I've ever heard.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92203 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 12:52 pm to
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Literally the gayest thing I've ever heard.


don't know wtf that means but these "weighted" GPAs are ooc





and btw








gfy
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20049 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 1:12 pm to
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don't know wtf that means but these "weighted" GPAs are ooc




We cant just be regular? For a system that loves to lump everyone together and preach about we are all one and the same blah blah, you sure do have a large range in your GPA so you can literally isolate the top student down the thousandth of a percent LOL.

So gay.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10594 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 1:20 pm to
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Is this one of those schools that dont teach reading or writing I keep hearing about?


Not even close. It has (or maybe had from my knowledge which doesn’t include the last 3 Biden years of policies) a large amount of kids from Indian-American parents who push their kids hard to excel academically and get scholarships to good universities. In the past at least having an unweighted 4.0 GPA wasn’t a guarantee of being in the top 10% of class. AP and duel credit classes were pushed often and early and taken by a lot of students. They were basically required to get into top 10% or higher.

What hasn’t been communicated is if his GPA was weighted or unweighted. I would think its usage here implies it’s unweighted and based on 4.0 scale, but it’s at least possible it’s weighted.
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

Is bringing the knife the same as the intent to stab someone? Is the same as the intent to stab someone with the goal of killing them?

Regardless of the above, once the knife was brandished, what's the take on intent to kill then? Did he intentionally aim for heart? Did he just get lucky? Essentially, does the heat of the moment matter when comes to where he stabbed the victim?


We don't know the true answer to any of those questions. That is why my son says he doubts they can get a 1st degree conviction unless the perp confesses to his intent or it can be drawn out of him by the prosecutor during testimony.

His attorneys will most likely advise him not to testify. So, then it is totally up to the prosecutor to convince 12 people that he went there with intent to kill. And it is up to the defense attorney to convince only 1 person that he did not.

Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8843 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 4:45 pm to
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please, once again, i'm asking you to explain to me how you can intentionally stab someone in the heart and involuntarily kill them.
Posted by Winterbush
Member since Jan 2021
158 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 5:06 pm to
The Gen-Xers here might remember when the Shreveport High School student was very similarly stabbed to death in the parking lot outside the school. For some reason, people who are unable to regulate their emotions seem to believe they have the right to murder a fellow high school student because they perceive something mean was said to them.

Sadly, the left with their love of violent crime typically agrees. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Murdered Captain Shreve Student
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