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re: Question about service dogs on planes

Posted on 1/16/16 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13455 posts
Posted on 1/16/16 at 12:20 pm to
I'd rather sit next to a well-behaved dog than 90% of the people I've sat next to on planes.
Posted by Dorothy
Munchkinland
Member since Oct 2008
18154 posts
Posted on 1/16/16 at 12:23 pm to
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I'd rather sit next to a well-behaved dog than 90% of the people I've sat next to on planes


Dog probably smells better than some of the people I've been forced to sit next to.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25240 posts
Posted on 1/16/16 at 12:25 pm to
There's a difference between a service dog, and an emotional support animal. With es dogs, most are bs. But I've known people who had such severe anxiety disorder, that they really needed our to leave the house.

If you don't understand, be glad you aren't feeling with mental illness.
Posted by TheDude321
Member since Sep 2005
3276 posts
Posted on 1/16/16 at 12:26 pm to
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I doubt she'd have a problem if a dog was on the plane


Yes, but an airplane is a confined airspace, with re-circulated air--someone with extreme allergies would practically need a haz-mat suit in that kind of environment.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106097 posts
Posted on 1/16/16 at 12:37 pm to
Let the dog fly, make the allergic person stay home.
Posted by dustoff
Aledo Texas
Member since Jul 2013
592 posts
Posted on 1/16/16 at 12:41 pm to
No way a service dog would be placed in cargo hold because of someone's allergies. Sorry but that ain't happening.

Big difference in a service dog and a therapy dog also. Do some research on public access tests for dogs and handlers and laws that govern them.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 1/16/16 at 12:54 pm to
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Why should the person with the allergy be deemed the bad guy and made a victim a second time by being told to move?


People switch seats on planes before take off all the time. It's nothing new. I moved to a middle seat last year to sit next to a blind passenger with a service animal because the original seat holder didn't feel comfortable.

Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 1/16/16 at 12:55 pm to
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Yes, but an airplane is a confined airspace, with re-circulated air--someone with extreme allergies would practically need a haz-mat suit in that kind of environment.


No they wouldn't.
Posted by ruzil
WNC
Member since Feb 2012
18466 posts
Posted on 1/16/16 at 2:11 pm to
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There's a difference between a service dog, and an emotional support animal. With es dogs, most are bs. But I've known people who had such severe anxiety disorder, that they really needed our to leave the house.

If you don't understand, be glad you aren't feeling with mental illness.




Or the illiteracy.
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12080 posts
Posted on 1/16/16 at 2:20 pm to
Back at Thanksgiving there were a couple OT 9.5s on my flight to Houston each with their "service dogs". I had my Chihuahua/Greyhound with me so she gave me a natural reason to spark up a conversation. Definitely made me realize I needed to get mine registered after I had just paid $125 for mine to fly in a kennel under the seat in front of me.
Posted by Camaro
Member since Jul 2015
45 posts
Posted on 1/17/16 at 5:39 am to
The first question would be are the allergies severe enough to be a disability, if they are not then that person can ask to be seated away from the dog or to take another flight. Dog allergies that severe are rare, and most of those cases require contact with the dander or saliva to trigger them.

In the rare cases where you would have two disabilities to accommodate the airline would have to do its best to accommodate both, which might mean someone takes a different flight, though different ends of the airplane would most likely be enough.
Posted by Camaro
Member since Jul 2015
45 posts
Posted on 1/17/16 at 5:45 am to
Therapy Dogs still have to be trained and certified by an organization.

Service Dogs have never needed to be certified, the things you can get online have no legal standing whatsoever, they do not make a dog a service dog.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 1/17/16 at 6:11 am to
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The first question would be are the allergies severe enough to be a disability, if they are not then that person can ask to be seated away from the dog or to take another flight. Dog allergies that severe are rare, and most of those cases require contact with the dander or saliva to trigger them.


I have seen this come up twice, the first time the person notified the gate agent and the animal was not allowed to board, the second time the passenger had to give up a 1rst class seat and move because an adjacent passenger stated they had allergies.

The paying passenger seems to have priority over the animal.
Posted by Finch
Member since Jun 2015
3768 posts
Posted on 1/17/16 at 6:15 am to
That makes sense. It seems like the health of a person would always take precedent over an animal.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/17/16 at 7:04 am to
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health of a person




Take a Claritin and suck it up.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33905 posts
Posted on 1/17/16 at 7:18 am to
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Take a Claritin and suck it up.

Say that when you have a kid with a severe allergy that has an allergic reaction mid-flight, has to get an Epipen injection, and the flight has to make an emergency landing to rush the kid to the hospital. Happened on one of my flights to a family a few rows in front of me. Didn't inform the flight crew about their daughter's peanut allergy
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/17/16 at 7:33 am to
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Didn't inform the flight crew about their daughter's peanut allergy


Should've led with this.

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Say that when you have a kid


Posted by zacata88
Member since Mar 2014
1682 posts
Posted on 1/17/16 at 9:01 am to
People do this because they don't want to pay to ship their dog, not because they can't be without it for 4 hours.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16797 posts
Posted on 1/17/16 at 10:32 am to
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Therapy Dogs still have to be trained and certified by an organization. Service Dogs have never needed to be certified, the things you can get online have no legal standing whatsoever, they do not make a dog a service dog.


Neither of them have to have any training. However the laws governing service dogs do not apply to therapy dogs in most states. Service dogs have national access to public places, therapy dogs do not.

Therapy dogs are by far the least trained of the two and are a lot of the time just normal pets. They aren't trained to perform any tasks or services for the owner besides companionship. This one is abused far more often than service dogs.

To be a true service dog, that dog has to be able to perform a task or service for its owner that has an ADA disability. Standard examples are seeing eye or seizure alert. Business owners can inquire if the dog is necessary for a disability and what services that dog performs for that disability, but that is pretty much it.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135363 posts
Posted on 1/17/16 at 10:38 am to
golden retriever >>>> someone sneezing
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