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Question about having covid but being asymptomatic
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:59 am
Posted on 4/24/20 at 12:59 am
So if you go about your business, and actually have covid and are asymptomatic, you can spread it without knowing. I get it that this isn't good for those who maybe would be infected by you, especially if they have underlying conditions.
So what is the answer then? You should stay home forever? Of course that's unrealistic, at least to me. If you're asymptomatic you won't know it so you won't know if it's ever "safe" to go out.
So again, I ask, how will "they" know when it's safe to "let" everyone return to normal life?
And if the answer is "well there will be a vaccine" I'm not an anti vaxer at all but I won't be in the first stages of giving this one.
So .. how do they ever "let" us out given that it seems to be a vicious circle??? I'm having a hard time putting into words what I want to know .. I hope someone understands and can offer an answer or theory because I'm done with this crap.
So what is the answer then? You should stay home forever? Of course that's unrealistic, at least to me. If you're asymptomatic you won't know it so you won't know if it's ever "safe" to go out.
So again, I ask, how will "they" know when it's safe to "let" everyone return to normal life?
And if the answer is "well there will be a vaccine" I'm not an anti vaxer at all but I won't be in the first stages of giving this one.
So .. how do they ever "let" us out given that it seems to be a vicious circle??? I'm having a hard time putting into words what I want to know .. I hope someone understands and can offer an answer or theory because I'm done with this crap.
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 1:00 am
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Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:01 am to tiger91
I dunno
Maybe try staying out of the early bird special at your local Golden Corral
Maybe try staying out of the early bird special at your local Golden Corral
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:02 am to tiger91
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:08 am to tiger91
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And if the answer is "well there will be a vaccine" I'm not an anti vaxer at all but I won't be in the first stages of giving this one.
That’s the only hope. Scientists said it could take 12-18 months but it is not guaranteed. May never happen but for individuals 85 plus with health problems I bet they would like to avoid it for a little longer.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:14 am to tiger91
They don't have an answer.
Just a set of never ending moving goalposts.
Just a set of never ending moving goalposts.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:14 am to crewdepoo
But a vaccine can't be mandatory so there will still be asymptomatic people as I would guess "some" won't take it, like me.
Can anyone name any other viruses/diseases that have asymptomatic carriers that can pass it on? I'm sure there are some that my brain just can't think of now.
Can anyone name any other viruses/diseases that have asymptomatic carriers that can pass it on? I'm sure there are some that my brain just can't think of now.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:17 am to tiger91
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But a vaccine can't be mandatory so there will still be asymptomatic people as I would guess "some" won't take it, like me.
Then you’ll most likely get it. Or, you could stay in a bunker until you’re confident in the vaccine if there ever is one.
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Can anyone name any other viruses/diseases that have asymptomatic carriers that can pass it on? I'm sure there are some that my brain just can't think of now.
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 1:19 am
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:18 am to tiger91
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:18 am to Privateer 2007
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Just a set of never ending moving goalposts.
I'm in healthcare. I have parents/inlaws that are older. My husbands employees are older. All of them are some level of compromised. I'm not heartless -- I know four older people who have died and 45+ that are positive.
That said, you can't run from a virus -- it does what it does. Wash your hands, don't touch your face and live life. This is just insane.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:22 am to crewdepoo
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Then you’ll most likely get it. Or, you could stay in a bunker until you’re confident in the vaccine if there ever is one.
I'm not living in a bunker, especially not to wait for a vaccine (see Aids). I don't "think" I'm afraid of getting it -- I mean I'm 50, normal weight, take thyroid meds. Doesn't mean I wouldn't be super sick if I got it but I'm not going to stay home.
I asked someone today if they'd go to a baseball game if LSU was playing today and their quick answer was no. I said "well then I guess I'd be going by myself".
Maybe I am heartless after all.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:25 am to tiger91
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you can't run from a virus
Exactly.
I'm sorry about your lost loved ones.
I feel bad for folks who have died and loved ones.
But, let's get healthy folks out there and get immunity.
Locking up 85 y.o. ppl many will just give up due to depression and die.
The quicker we're immune the less people die.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:31 am to Privateer 2007
It was residents at a nursing home .. two were "frail" but two were a surprise to me and likely everyone.
The other residents are facetiming with their families via staff and doing "window visits" but man some of them aren't eating well and are getting sad/depressed. They've been confined to their rooms for I'm not even sure how long it's been now but it's taking a toll for sure.
I'm ready to get out -- and oddly enough, I don't NEED to go. But like telling a two year old to "not do that" is making me REALLY want to just go and do things I don't need to do!
The other residents are facetiming with their families via staff and doing "window visits" but man some of them aren't eating well and are getting sad/depressed. They've been confined to their rooms for I'm not even sure how long it's been now but it's taking a toll for sure.
I'm ready to get out -- and oddly enough, I don't NEED to go. But like telling a two year old to "not do that" is making me REALLY want to just go and do things I don't need to do!
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:41 am to Langland
Posted on 4/24/20 at 2:24 am to tiger91
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Can anyone name any other viruses/diseases that have asymptomatic carriers that can pass it on? I'm sure there are some that my brain just can't think of now.
Most of the name brand ones you have ever heard of can be transmitted by asymptomatic carriers.
Cholera, Ebola, Typhoid, Chlamydia, Tuberculosis, HIV, All types of influenza which includes China Virus, Yersinia Pestis (Black Plague), etc
Probably harder to find ones that are only symptomatic. Just your common cold type stuff.
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 2:26 am
Posted on 4/24/20 at 6:18 am to tiger91
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I'm in healthcare. I have parents/inlaws that are older. My husbands employees are older. All of them are some level of compromised. I'm not heartless -- I know four older people who have died and 45+ that are positive.
Know anyone that has used an hyperbaric chamber to treat this shite?
Posted on 4/24/20 at 6:25 am to YF12
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Chlamydia
So that explains how that happened...
Posted on 4/24/20 at 6:32 am to tiger91
The asymptomatic cases are why a lot of the actions we're taking are a waste of time to some extent. A great experiment will be to continue to watch OPP, who is testing every inmate and staff member through Tulane.
They've had 100ish inmates test positive, but only 6 total have exhibited a fever or cough. Entire groups of people like wtf I haven't felt a thing, and that's confirmed with temp checks of the entire population daily. If they weren't mass testing, you'd have seen "6 inmates in OPP positive for Covid", because that's all who warranted a test.
In the end, there have likely been 15x the amount of asymptomatic cases walking around than those who tested positive.
They've had 100ish inmates test positive, but only 6 total have exhibited a fever or cough. Entire groups of people like wtf I haven't felt a thing, and that's confirmed with temp checks of the entire population daily. If they weren't mass testing, you'd have seen "6 inmates in OPP positive for Covid", because that's all who warranted a test.
In the end, there have likely been 15x the amount of asymptomatic cases walking around than those who tested positive.
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 6:33 am
Posted on 4/24/20 at 6:35 am to tLSU
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Posted on 4/24/20 at 7:25 am to tiger91
just dont cough or spit on people, its not that difficult. if you go out and about, wash your hands after touching solid surfaces.
If you think about it, half the damn deaths are old people quarantined inside in close contact with the possible carriers, the nurses and healthcare workers.
If you think about it, half the damn deaths are old people quarantined inside in close contact with the possible carriers, the nurses and healthcare workers.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 7:35 am to tiger91
There's no bulletproof answer to not spread the virus and there's no vaccine anytime soon. We have to re-open but try to keep the rate of spread at a level that doesn't overwhelm the healthcare system. Opening up will inevitably lead to an increased rate (but not necessarily an increased total) of infections and deaths. It's threading a needle on a population scale.
The best we can do as individuals is take precautions to moderate the rate of spread. We don't want it to spread like wildfire (imo) or we can potentially wind up overwhelmed, or at least head down that path again. But taking measures like working from home where possible, everyone wearing masks when coming into contact with one another, and social distancing can hopefully keep the rate of spread pretty manageable in the vast majority of America where we are pretty sprawled out. Where it will be interesting to watch are highly dense population centers like NYC and some of our other largest cities.
Really not as simple as it sounds. People are nasty and this bug spreads very easily.
The best we can do as individuals is take precautions to moderate the rate of spread. We don't want it to spread like wildfire (imo) or we can potentially wind up overwhelmed, or at least head down that path again. But taking measures like working from home where possible, everyone wearing masks when coming into contact with one another, and social distancing can hopefully keep the rate of spread pretty manageable in the vast majority of America where we are pretty sprawled out. Where it will be interesting to watch are highly dense population centers like NYC and some of our other largest cities.
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just dont cough or spit on people, its not that difficult. if you go out and about, wash your hands after touching solid surfaces.
Really not as simple as it sounds. People are nasty and this bug spreads very easily.
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 7:37 am
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