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re: Professor at Old Dominion is trying to normalize the term MAP (Minor Attracted Persons)
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:51 am to dandyjohn
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:51 am to dandyjohn
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This. But I don't really wish you guys actually understood this. I come to the OT to see conservative reactions because in my normal world I don't see anything like the shite y'all post here.
Uninformed voters are the worst.
Yes, you've somehow managed to avoid shutdowns, vaccines, tranniness, and every other social topic that has dominated the headlines.
Be proud!
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:52 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:That is essentially what you are saying though.
That's a straw man. I never used that argument.
Stop taking about it and it won’t really spread.
These ideas are being spread and discussed on Twitter, Reddit, etc., websites vastly more populated with progressives and left wing individuals than right wing.
It makes no difference in the eventual acceptance or propagation.
It occurs with or without right wing involvement.
Do you apply this same viewpoint to the propagation and acceptance of transgenderism?
If conservatives hadn’t pointed out articles and discussed it, it wouldn’t be as widespread as it is today?
Is that an all or nothing stance or does it apply to only certain situations?
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 9:55 am
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:54 am to dandyjohn
quote:where is your "normal world", geographically?
This. But I don't really wish you guys actually understood this. I come to the OT to see conservative reactions because in my normal world I don't see anything like the shite y'all post here.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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The 80s were androgynous

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and transgender as F.
No. People in the 80s weren’t saying they were a woman when they were obviously men. Crossdressing is not “transgender”
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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That's not what I'm arguing at all.
I believe I'm just taking your statements to their logical conclusion. Like Scruffy just said, these ideologies are spreading like never before on their own now that they have the networks to propagate.
Are you not suggesting that conservative outrage is the primary fuel for spreading this ideology and that if conservatives stop raising awareness of the issue it'll just go away at least for another couple decades? If not, can you elaborate on your position?
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:03 am to OysterPoBoy
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Is "Pedophile" not descriptive enough?
I think it technically means a person who loves feet.
Someone that loves feet is Podophile.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:04 am to Scruffy
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That's a straw man. I never used that argument.
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That is essentially what you are saying though.
Correct.
he's saying the conservative overreaction is what they're looking for and its a giant troll.
However, I guess he thinks no democrats are against this, and no independents, and the right thing to do is let them have their way.
So, the troll here is SFP. Either that or he's awfully overestimated around here.
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 10:06 am
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:08 am to SlowFlowPro
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The 80s were androgynous

In Studio 54, in the 70's things were pretty androgynous.
Maybe sunset strip in the 80s.
But again you're dealing with a tiny fraction of the population. Most of America was Macho as frick in the 80.s
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 10:09 am
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:12 am to efrad
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Are you not suggesting that conservative outrage is the primary fuel for spreading this ideology and that if conservatives stop raising awareness of the issue it'll just go away at least for another couple decades?
The reactions aren't helping stopping the spread of the ideas. I follow a ton of leftist/progressive outlets and you never hear this sort of thing promoted/discussed. The only time this stuff is discussed is when the conservative reaction gets discussed. Typically that is to just laugh at the boogeyman creation.
These crazy ideas cannot be stopped. They have been hanging around the ether for decades. Hell, you could argue centuries. What can be stopped is the proliferation of these ideas in the arena of social conversation (hence why I pointed out the Strawman arguments earlier).
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:13 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Most of America was Macho as frick in the 80.s

Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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Most of America was Macho as frick in the 80.s
You should probably read the entire post, chief. That was covered.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:17 am to SlowFlowPro
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The reactions aren't helping stopping the spread of the ideas
Neither does appeasement
You think only conservatives dislike pedophilia..

Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:19 am to RogerTheShrubber
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You think only conservatives dislike pedophilia.
Another Strawman
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:21 am to SlowFlowPro
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Another Strawman
Maybe be honest for once here

Just going by your own words, chief.
SFT" "Anything I get called on is a strawman."
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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I follow a ton of leftist/progressive outlets and you never hear this sort of thing promoted/discussed. The only time this stuff is discussed is when the conservative reaction
You've taken your very limited experience, ran it through your autistic brain and this is your conclusion??


Based on you reading various materials, you have decided that progressives don't care, and conservatives are helping the progressives. That is your conclusion based on nothing but your own anecdotal evidence." and people have been given you data to show it's not just some "conservative reaction."
That's childish.
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 10:40 am
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:24 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Maybe be honest for once here
Just going by your own words, chief.
SFT" "Anything I get called on is a strawman."

Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:37 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:As I asked before, is this a universal concept?
The reactions aren't helping stopping the spread of the ideas. I follow a ton of leftist/progressive outlets and you never hear this sort of thing promoted/discussed.
Does this apply to transgenderism? Was it’s propagation due to conservatives not ignoring it?
Is pedophilia the only topic where this is a thing?
And, if the reactions aren’t helping to stop the spread of the ideas, then what does it matter either way?
The ideas are apparently unstoppable and will advance to mainstream no matter the response.
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 10:39 am
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:39 am to stout
we're going to need a bigger wood chipper
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:43 am to Scruffy
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Is pedophilia the only topic where this is a thing?
I wouldn't say it's the only thing. There are certain behaviors that will be social mores no matter what. Pedophilia is one of those.
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And, if the reactions aren’t helping to stop the spread of the ideas, then what does it matter either way?
It could be making the spread faster by proliferating the ideas more pervasively into society.
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The ideas are apparently unstoppable and will advance to mainstream no matter the response.
Well counter culture is going to happen. I still argue some behaviors will remain off limits (like pedophilia), but as society gets better, we're going to come up with weird stuff. Humans need to go out and seek new things, and if the outward world is conquered, then we will look inward. We don't like being happy and settled and when you live in an abundant society that's taken on most of the fundamental social issues of humanity, we will create new ones.
That's why Marxism explodes as a concept when things are going well.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:44 am to stout
Nobody should be the least surprised that the latest push from the leftists is to add a “P” to the LGBTQ alphabet.
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