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re: Private vs Parochial schools

Posted on 5/3/19 at 7:41 am to
Posted by Ba Ba Boooey
Northshore
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 7:41 am to
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 7:50 am to
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That being said kids are kids and you can be successful anywhere.


This. Take those kids at "private schools" with highly selective enrollment and our then in catholic schools. Guess what? They're still scoring 32s on the ACT. If Catholic High in BR could charge $28k per year and cut their classes down to 16, they'd put up the same high end numbers, but that's not the model.

Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 7:56 am to
To each their own,
you can succeed by going to true private, parochial (more faith based due to your beliefs) and/or public schools (better representation of the real world that everyone has to live in at some point).

You eventually have to live and work with all walks of life at some point and it's more a reflection of the educational system your city and state can provide that makes those decisions for families.

I have children in parochial and public and both have good and bad, your kids will have to deal with it and make right and wrong decisions and you hope more right on how you raised them.
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:01 am to
So all parochial schools are private but not all private schools are parochial. And absolutely no one but you cares about this.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:42 am to
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Let’s be really honest. Catholic schools in Louisiana were designed as a defacto method of segregation.


Actually, the bulk of the non religious private schools in Louisiana were formed for this purpose.

None of the Catholic schools were formed for this purpose, although I can't speak for some of the sketchy other religious schools.

For all the bitching about private schools, no one acknowledges that Louisiana cannot afford to educate all of their students. If every private school shut down tomorrow, they public schools would be overwhelmed.

Public schools should thank the private schools daily.
Posted by tylerlsu2008
Zurich
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 10:59 am to
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This isn’t semantics by any means. Let’s be really honest. Catholic schools in Louisiana were designed as a defacto method of segregation.


Ha, I think your getting Catholic schools confused with current and former MPSA schools (Central Private, Silliman, False River Academy, etc.)

From the ones I know, the grads from those schools aren't exactly splitting the atom...
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 11:01 am
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:30 am to
WRONG. There are not enough downvotes to give.
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 11:31 am
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:55 am to
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Jp1LSU


What type of school did you go to?


I'd prefer to not send my child to that type of school.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33961 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:59 am to
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It’s part of the reason why parochial students are so under-prepared for college.


You got some stats to back this one up? Cause it sounds like bullshite
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:26 pm to
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Not all, because “religious schools” are “faith based” they don’t have to meet state requirements because of the religious exemptions. 
Private schools are held to a much higher standard. It’s part of the reason why parochial students are so under-prepared for college.


There's is a huge difference between parochial schools and some Baptist 20 kids in a class thing.


The religion classes in Parochial schools are taught as morality, biblical readings with context and interpretation, and History when appropriate like saints we have good records of, Roman emperors, and schisms.

The kids are then taught in science classes about carbon dating, evolution, and current models of the universe.

The schools also have no problem sorting out the wheat and chaff.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101919 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:33 pm to
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Is that why some date back to the 1800s?



They just had the forethought to plan for the abolition of slavery and integration of public schools. They were pre-racist, if you will.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:35 pm to
Yep, you don't know what Parochial means.

Or that the Catholic Church has no issue with evolution as part of God's method of Creation.
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:21 pm to
This is simply incorrect
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:33 pm to
If that drives you crazy, it must be a very short trip.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:51 pm to
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This isn’t semantics by any means. Let’s be really honest. Catholic schools in Louisiana were designed as a defacto method of segregation.


I know someone who went to Redemptorist before it shut down. They told me that overall the education wasnt better than the public schools, it was just a easier environment to learn in.

Not sure what Redemptorist was categorized. I know other people who went to faith based school systems who said the same thing.

There is a difference between academic rigor and just having a decent learning environment. They are used interchangeably but that's incorrect.

I think what you're paying for is to send your kids to areas with less discipline problems. The institution itself isnt going to make you IVY league material by itself.

There are plenty of public school students who make similar level of accomplishments. I think the biggest difference is that you dont have those kids that are disruptive.
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 1:56 pm
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:55 pm to
From a grades and admissions standpoint they can be pretty equal...


Problem is with fewer and fewer nuns (more lay teaches) who will put the fear of god into the next generation of kids. I mean if you don't have nuns what is the point of private education.

Spare the penguin, spoil the child for life
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
38970 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:59 pm to
My son is going to go to a 7-12th grade all boys school that is run by the Brothers of the Sacred Heart. I’m pretty sure my son is scared shitless of them. After his interview he commented that he didn’t think the brother had a sense of humor. Ha, no shite.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37084 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 2:02 pm to
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All the while St Joseph, and CHS have 100% college acceptance rate, 100% college scholarships rate, and ACT scores that average 27 but yea you are correct they are NOT creating a better learning environment.




And if those kids were attending BR Magnet HS, probably would be the same stats.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54662 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 2:04 pm to
They are not supposed to. Like a real parent, sometimes you can not be a kids friend and correctly prepare them life.

I am guessing even the crappy weather in the 70's did not get rid of Saint Stanislaus.

Monks may not have a sense of humor but God did not smite them all the way.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37084 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 2:05 pm to
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None of the Catholic schools were formed for this purpose, although I can't speak for some of the sketchy other religious schools.


Meh. Archbishop Rummel desegregated the Catholic schools in Arch of NOLA. Now that was maybe a decade before must of the public schools desegregated... but many of the older schools absolutely were formed for that purpose.

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For all the bitching about private schools, no one acknowledges that Louisiana cannot afford to educate all of their students. If every private school shut down tomorrow, they public schools would be overwhelmed.


I've often said this, it's correct.
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