re: Priest dies after statue of Jesus falls on him during mass livestream

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Talk about ironic.

Why?

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Because the one who is supposed to be saving us, winds up killing us.

“Ironic” is the most misunderstood and mis-used word in the English language.

The belief of every true Christian is that he will join Jesus and other followers of Christ in Heaven upon his/her death, and that Heaven is a better place than this world. Why would a Christian believe his death is some tragedy?

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Because the one who is supposed to be saving us, winds up killing us. “Ironic” is the most misunderstood and mis-used word in the English language.

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Indeed it is. As it was misused here.

Where in the Bible does it say Jesus would save us from earthly death?

If anything this would be an appropriate and fitting occurrence, not an ironic one.

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“If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.”

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Matthew 16:24–25
See also. Luke 9:23–24 (adding “daily” to taking up the cross)

And numerous other examples from Jesus.

Similarly re: Paul

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“Provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him.”

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Romans 8:17–18

This is why the health, wealth, and prosperity “gospel” is abjectly a false one.

I read there are somewhere in the neighborhood of 2,000 different religions that have been identified throughout history.

Evidently most of them claiming that their’s is the true religion while the other 1,999 versions are abjectly false.

Actually any of them claiming to have supernatural aspects to them as a part of the belief system are objectively false.

I didn’t understand “banana” and it only got worse from there

But I agree with you that the prosperity gospel is certainly not gospel. It’s actually the exact opposite of the gospels.

See I’m not a Christian, or even a fake one like most republicans, so I’ve actually read a lot of the Bible, although not as much lately

Acts and maybe Romans (can’t remember) spends a lot of time teaching us the virtues of Communism

who’s alter are you again?

EarlyCuyler?

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And an example of a narrow minded uninformed side (Klark)

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ohh fun! let’s circle back to your previous post, pastor!

“I’ve actually read a lot of the Bible” followed by “maybe Romans, can’t remember.” Quite the opening for a lecture on everyone else’s biblical literacy.

Acts 4 describes believers sharing possessions and giving to those in need. Sure does. Now turn the page.

In Acts 5:4, Peter tells Ananias the property was his before he sold it, and the money remained his to control afterward. His offense was lying to God about the donation. Pretty inconvenient detail when the same book you’re citing recognizes his ownership and control over what he gave.

Romans 12:13 tells Christians to help those in need and practice hospitality. Romans 15:26 describes churches willingly contributing to the poor in Jerusalem. Where does either passage call for abolishing private ownership or establishing a communist economy?

Communal sharing gives you a comparison to work with. It doesn’t establish that these books teach communism. Christians absolutely have an obligation to help the poor. That doesn’t turn the collection plate into The Communist Manifesto.

Apparently you read enough to call everyone else fake Christians, but stopped one chapter short of checking your own argument.

(this is where you disappear from this thread)