re: Pride Month Discussion Topic - Child sleepover with friend who switched genders

Did you know the rate of transgender kids in school is something like 70x the adult population? Want to know why? Kids easily give in to peer pressure, new fades. This is not about being accepting of others. It's about not wanting your kid to grow up depressed, confused and suicidal and separating them at night is not some form of oppression

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It's still a girl right? What's the issue?

Unless the dad is acknowledging it as a boy.

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It is why I mentioned 0% pregnancy chance.

I thought the Dad handled it perfectly in supporting the friends choice to transition. Normal parents are not going to let the children have sleepovers with the opposite sex. If said friend is now saying I am a boy, normal rules of teenage sleepovers should apply.

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If said friend is now saying I am a boy, normal rules of teenage sleepovers should apply.

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It's just funny when people are like "it's still a girl!!!" Then when it involves their daughter it's "no, you will not sleep at that boys house."

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The mentally ill need help, not to be coddled and affirmation

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You're absolutely right, and in the case of genuine gender dysphoria, there isn't really anything to do to properly "help" because there hasn't been enough proper research because, honestly, it's pretty dang low on the mental illness totem pole. So the best "solutions" we have at the moment are either letting people call themselves something else, or the extreme of a sex change operation, both "appeasing" the illness rather than curing.

In the meantime, I don't think it's asking too much to not keep your child from being friends with someone just because of this illness.

Sleepovers are a different story and it's still mind-boggling to me that sex change operations are allowed or seemingly encouraged sometimes for minors. I'm 100% behind not having a boy sleep over at a daughter's, but the discussion should be moot regardless. Anyone having a sleepover is too young for a sex change.

I think the dad here made the right choice because it creates the same standard and gives the appearance (don’t know if real or not) of accepting the transgendered child. If you want to transition from girl to boy then the rules regarding sleepovers with boys now apply to you. Seems simple and shouldn’t cause conflict.

The lesbian issue is a bit trickier—I guess if I knew 100% my child was into boys, maybe, but how can you know? And even so, kids do crazy stuff when they are together. We just don’t do sleepovers.

Hang on. Mapping this out on a pad and will get back to you.

If he bent the rules for this "Now boy," the dad would not fully accepting of the transgenders choice. To treat the (girl -> boy) to a different set of rules would be the epitome of indifference.

No sleep overs dude, sorry not sorry.

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It's still a girl right? What's the issue?

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Is it the expectation of the confused child bringing her strap-on, or at least a big dildo, to future slumber parties?

Good decision.

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The mentally ill need help, not to be coddled and affirmation

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Not all mental illness are equal you dumb shite.

Would you seriously tell your kid to not associate with someone because of some issues they are dealing with?

Way to treat your kids to treat someone who is obviously already dealing with some issues, as if they are outcast.

When I was in 5th or 6th grade. This girl who was new (her family moved over the summer and she started the school year or something like that) one day at recess, while everyone was playing, told me that he mother told her not to hang out with someone in a wheelchair. Seriously, I forgot the details, I just remember after she told me that I told people she didn't brush her teeth and only took a bath once a week and people started teasing her.

Her mother complained, there was a meeting with the principal in which it was revealed I started telling people she was dirty and didn't brush her teeth or take baths. I got called in and was asked if I did it I told them yes and when they asked why I told them because she told me her mother told her that she can't play with me because I was in a wheelchair. The mom was embarrassed I think. I just remember being told to go back to class.. After that year never saw the girl again.

But hey, you seem to know what's best so I am sure it will work out for your kids.