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re: Pretenious responses after getting doctorate?

Posted on 11/30/14 at 10:58 pm to
Posted by reverendotis
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/30/14 at 10:58 pm to
quote:

odd how society comes up with titles for some jobs but not others


If I don't know you, your name is "chief" until I find out otherwise.
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 10:59 pm to
There's other kinds of doctors you know, not just MDs, that deserve to be called Doctor.
This post was edited on 11/30/14 at 11:01 pm
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
72536 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:00 pm to
I was looking for the "Please stop calling me Mr. Doback." / "OK, Mom, Doback?" reference and found this gem.



/derail
This post was edited on 11/30/14 at 11:02 pm
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92902 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:08 pm to
I am an ordained minister, I would swear to God but as a minister I cannot.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
41870 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:11 pm to
People call me Mr. Lordguill or Dr. Lordguill. I don't care either way.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36135 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:18 pm to
My wife is going to be a doctor. I told her I'd call her "doctor" on her graduation day, but that would be the first and last time.

I'd definitely tell her to stop being pretentious if she corrected someone and told them to call her "doctor" in a non professional setting.
Posted by BioBobcat
Boston
Member since Feb 2013
827 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:21 pm to
I feel like it is only going to get worse with the increase in doctoral offerings. For instance, one can receive a "doctorate" from the University of Phoenix and I believe nurses and physical therapists can earn doctorates...

I was at an education seminar a few years back (because I was your typical I love research and hate teaching professor ) and I started talking to another attendee. Having spent an extensive amount of time in academia, you rarely refer to your colleagues as "Dr." In turn, I called this woman by her first name... This woman quickly corrected me and reminded me she had an E.d. and should be referred to as Dr. Well, being an academic snob and/or douchebag who received their doctorate from a prestigious university; I asked her where she got her degree from. Turns out it was from the University of Phoenix. I promptly laughed in her face and asked if she was was joking. She was not.

Nonetheless, as a PhD, you should only refer to yourself as doctor if 1) you're an MD or 2) you're at the bar trying to get laid, as stated above.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
41870 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:25 pm to
"Doctor" doesn't mean "person that can treat diseases." They earned the degree, so if they want to refer to themselves as doctor, then it's their choice.
Posted by Flame Salamander
Texas Gulf - Clear Lake
Member since Jan 2012
3044 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:25 pm to
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Unless it is a medical doctor, but even then, it's still pretty douchey.


From everything I have heard and read the honorific of doctor went with a PhD long before it was applied to an MD. Remember that in the old days a barber was the one doing surgery on the populace.

Doctor, as a title, originates from the Latin word of the same spelling and meaning.[1] The word is originally an agentive noun of the Latin verb docere [d?'ke?r?] 'to teach'. It has been used as an honored academic title for over a millennium in Europe, where it dates back to the rise of the first universities. This use spread to the Americas, former European colonies, and is now prevalent in most of the world. Contracted "Dr" or "Dr.", it is used as a designation for a person who has obtained a doctorate-level degree. Doctorates may be research doctorates or professional doctorates.
This post was edited on 11/30/14 at 11:31 pm
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36135 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:27 pm to
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"Doctor" doesn't mean "person that can treat diseases." They earned the degree, so if they want to refer to themselves as doctor, then it's their choice.


True, some "doctors" can treat pathologies without having an MD, too.
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:35 pm to
You should refer to yourself as doctor in the correct professional setting. If I'm teaching I want the students to call me Doctor Zacattack, if I'm introducing a speaker with a PhD I introduce them as "Dr so and so", I call my dentist doctor when he's drilling my teeth and so on. If I'm with a whole lot of other doctors, it's first names only.

When did MDs get "white knighted" as the only ones who should be called doctor?
Posted by BioBobcat
Boston
Member since Feb 2013
827 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:41 pm to
I don't disagree. However, referring to oneself as Dr._______ rarely has purpose. When I was in academia, I'd only address myself as Dr. during syllabus week to demonstrate that I had, at the very least, a decent understanding of the material I would be teaching. That was it. For the remainder of the quarter I'd have the students call me by my first name. Similarly, MDs should refer to themselves as Dr. when addressing themselves to patients so that the patients know that the person taking care of them is qualified.

Other than that you can always refer to yourself as a Dr. but it is generally useless and typically frowned upon socially.
Posted by KyleOrtonsMustache
Krystal Baller
Member since Jan 2008
5148 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:44 pm to
i had an english lit professor correct me in class one day.

He said "It's Dr. Fredrickson…I didn't spend all that time and money to be a Mister"

I said, "Ok, but you've got to call me Super Kyle. I didn't spend all those nights saving the world to just be Kyle."

Everyone laughed.

He suggested I drop the class.
Posted by sealawyer
Coonassganistan
Member since Nov 2012
3142 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:44 pm to
Can we all just agree that if you even THINK the word esquire in reference to yourself you are an a-hole?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84164 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:48 pm to
I started putting ", Esq." behind the names of other lawyers in formal letters solely because the poster IonaTiger told me he does it.

I'll never use it in reference to myself, though.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30854 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:51 pm to
I've never introduced myself as doctor in a social situation. Only in the office/hospital, especially when I was fresh out of school. Wife is a doctor of pharmacy and has not one time referred to herself as Dr. unless being a bitch to other Dr's snobby arse wives.
Posted by BioBobcat
Boston
Member since Feb 2013
827 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:52 pm to
quote:

When did MDs get "white knighted" as the only ones who should be called doctor?


My guess is that the common person only hears MDs refer to themselves as Dr and may not realize that outside of MDs and professors/lecturers other people have doctorates. Thus, they may think that MDs are the only ones worthy of being called Dr??? I'm not entirely sure but there is definitely prestige associated with being an MD. While I was in academia, teaching biology, it seemed like 65%+ of the students wanted to be MDs because apparently it's the only thing one can do with a biology degree.

I also agree with your comment 100%.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58679 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 11:55 pm to
I always called my dad's good friend (who was also my doctor) by his first name growing up. He didn't like being called doctor when out of the office.

It kind of felt weird but i just went with it.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
41870 posts
Posted on 12/1/14 at 12:10 am to
I mostly agree with you, which is why I dont mind if people don't refer to me as doctor.
Posted by Jet12
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/1/14 at 12:19 am to
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"Doctor" doesn't mean "person that can treat diseases." They earned the degree, so if they want to refer to themselves as doctor, then it's their choice.

That's what I say. If they decided to spend even more time and money on school than I did, they deserve the title.
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