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re: President just announced direct payments to Americans within the next two weeks

Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:30 pm to
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He is an Aspirational President not a proponent of the American Declinism that Obama/Clinton/Biden/Sanders represents

Trump is essentially a moderate Democrat from 40 years ago which makes it all the more hilarious that he causes the leftists to totally melt down.
Posted by eatpie
Kentucky
Member since Aug 2018
1575 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:30 pm to
Hopefully, those who solely subsist on welfare will not receive any $. If you don't have an income apart from money from the taxpayers, then you won't have any disruption in income and your cost of living will not increase.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:31 pm to
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They said it's going to be checks directed to low and medium income workers.


And he’s gonna get it from me
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:34 pm to
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So then why do people call Sanders a socialist when he only wants to nationalize healthcare... which is already partly nationalized for potions of the populace.

Bernie calls himself a socialist and than he uses market economies (Norway, Sweden etc) as his examples of ideal, socialist utopias. He doesn't even understand his own political ideology. They might be big government nanny states but they aren't socialist
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:36 pm to
Fair enough.

quote:


Trump is essentially a moderate Democrat from 40 years ago which makes it all the more hilarious that he causes the leftists to totally melt down.

I'd agree up to the extent of his judicial appointments which come straight out of the Federalist Society's Top Ten Hit Parade.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:36 pm to
And we'll be paying for this shite for years. Which is why we've been saying all along it's a terrible idea to shut the country down. I'm curious to see how the "small government conservatives" rationalize this one.
Posted by keks tadpole
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:38 pm to
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casinos are closed


Not the one in my garage.
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:40 pm to
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And we'll be paying for this shite for years. Which is why we've been saying all along it's a terrible idea to shut the country down. I'm curious to see how the "small government conservatives" rationalize this one.


In case you haven't seen them, these are the guidelines that were handed down by the White House the other day: LINK

At the bottom it says:
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In states with evidence of community transmission, bars, restaurants, food courts, gyms, and other indoor and outdoor venues where groups of people congregate should be closed.

I realize there are people with strong anti-government sentiments, but I think such concerns are not warranted when you have an actual global health crisis. This is not some kind of pretense to enact a police state. shite is apparently so bad even Trump is listening to the scientists. A fairly sobering thought.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:46 pm to
I just don't believe the price down the road is going to be less than the price paid up front. Sometimes you just have to suffer through stuff. It may be bad, it may not. If it's bad, it's not going to matter much anyway.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:47 pm to
Seems like an idiotic idea.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:47 pm to
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Trump is essentially a moderate Democrat from 40 years ago which makes it all the more hilarious that he causes the leftists to totally melt down.


This is what makes all of this so funny. He's a dem, hated by dems. They don't know what to do and it's glorious.
Posted by TT9
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:48 pm to
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Trump is essentially a moderate Democrat from 40 years ago which makes it all the more hilarious that he causes the leftists to totally melt down.


also funny that "staunch conservatives" like Limbaugh, Levin and Hannity hitch their wagons to the guy.

Hypocrites, the whole lot of them.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:48 pm to
it’s terrible and I don’t want it to happen / hope it doesn’t happen. how’s that for rationalization?
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:49 pm to
Democrat 40 years ago is waaaaaaaaaaay different than democrat today.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
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27290 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:49 pm to
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Hypocrites, the whole lot of them.


Exactly.
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
5758 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:49 pm to
Apparently the White House was convinced by the recent UK study that said, without these extreme measures, almost one million people in the U.S. would die. I don't know if that includes just from the virus itself or also collateral deaths from an overwhelmed health care system.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:49 pm to
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shite is apparently so bad even Trump is listening to the scientists. A fairly sobering thought.

to be fair, the reason this is so bad is b/c the "scientists" (CDC) completely fricked up the start of our federal response
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73226 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:49 pm to
they haven’t even had time to respond or give their opinions on the matter publicly yet.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:50 pm to
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it’s terrible and I don’t want it to happen / hope it doesn’t happen. how’s that for rationalization?


That justifies creating even more debt and digging the hole even deeper?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44297 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:51 pm to
Yay. More redistribution of wealth.

'Murica!

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