Prefered wheels, analogue 2012 pickup, or digital 2023 minivan

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I would love to have a no frills pickup. I would rather shoot myself than drive a minivan.

If you’re getting the minivan you have to make sure to never ever road rage. Nothing looks more pathetic than a middle aged white dude driving a minivan road raging like a fool.

Analogue. I plugged my laptop into the OBD-II port and started changing stuff immediately after I bought my 21? One of the reasons I bought a diesel is so I didn't have to worry about buying a new vehicle after all the forced eye-tracking tech gets put into vehicles (news flash: 50% of car riding elementary kids will not get picked up from school if that goes into effect.

Disable *all* telematics on the MV, don't update anything. The updates, are almost never beneficial to you. It's Honda or Toyota trying to figure out how to find more data to sell.

If you want better seats, or CarPlay, in the truck, just bring it to a shop and ask.

Over the years I have grown more attached to digital gizmos but I can still get along fine with an analog vehicle.

I see both minivans and PUs as tools that I would only drive if my life necessitated them. It would be a tough choice for me because without kids in the house I hate the idea of a minivan and trucks are just too slow, boring and have horrible user-controlled active safety. If forced I would likely pick the minivan and I am not sure why, ask me again in 30 minutes and I will probably give the opposite answer.

That pic from Kjnstkmn was nice.

Trucks are not slow. People that drive them, especially diesels, are slow AF. A friend lent me a 250, and I could spin the tires on the regular at a stop sign. I bought mine, got the right axle ratio, and accelerate to the speed limit without undue delay. Most don't, especially owners of diesels. They're figuring out where their next job is, wondering when their chick from Victoria is going to get to their hotel, etc.

Always the f*$@# phone, no matter the truck/car or model. it's the user. There is a saying from old school IT, PEBKAC. Problem exists between keyboard and chair. That's driving.

At least looking at Crutchfield tells you what is possible in your vehicle without excessive customization. Check it out, ask the custom shop about it. They may have a better idea, OP.

Even my 2020 ram compared to my wife's 22 suburban is a big jump. My truck has the touch screen of course, but no lane keep assist, automatic braking, etc.

Hers pisses me off driving it with all that crap jerking the steering wheel and slamming on the brakes.

We've had everything from an old Accord to a Sequoia, with multiple SUVs and a Sienna. You have to think of the van as practical. In the van, I could lay down the back row and take the middle row of seats out and I had a space large enough to load drywall and sheets of plywood without having to get them up into a truck bed. I hauled so much furniture in that thing over the years. It was a legit 8+ foot long area. Then in about 5 minutes have it set back up to seat 8. No it wasn't as cool to drive as the Sequoia, and it didn't get as good gas mileage as our Highlanders, but it got a carpool full of kids to school and was great on long trips. My only gripe with it was the drivers seat got uncomfortable after about 3 hours. You'd think something geared towards road trips would have better support in the drivers seat.

That being said, I hate all the digital stuff. My wife's current Highlander has too many things in it. Radar cruise control that slows you down as you start approaching a vehicle on the interstate. Maybe I wanted to stay in the right lane until I got close enough then get to the left and pass it, but somewhere around 15-20 yards away it will start to match the speed of the one in front of you. Just another little annoyance you have to deal with when driving it.

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But, I’d go for the truck bf a minivan just on the principle that I’m not a pwussy. Sorry if that’s harsh.

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Only a true pussy let's the vehicle they drive define them.

My 2017 truck doesn't have a touch screen or anything. Just a 2 knob radio, AC, power windows. Nothing fancy. I don't think to myself while driving it that I wish it had all kinds of warnings on the dash.