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Potentially Unpopular Opinion Regarding Coronavirus
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:46 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:46 pm
The best course of action would be to let the virus run its course while taking whatever measures can be reasonably taken to(a) isolate those most at-risk from the virus infecting them and (b) to take measures, if they do get infected, to ensure that they are treated swiftly and with appropriate measures.
In the absence of actual evidence that this virus will get killed by heat and humidity, or an actual reasonably foreseeable treatment option is imminent, the current approach is not actually saving lives. It is simply extending some for a few months. In the absence of data indicating an actual reduction in the number of individuals infected with this virus -- which given the draconian restrictions and median 5-day incubation period we would have seen in most states -- the quarantining measures that are being taken are for naught.
Discuss, if you'd like.
In the absence of actual evidence that this virus will get killed by heat and humidity, or an actual reasonably foreseeable treatment option is imminent, the current approach is not actually saving lives. It is simply extending some for a few months. In the absence of data indicating an actual reduction in the number of individuals infected with this virus -- which given the draconian restrictions and median 5-day incubation period we would have seen in most states -- the quarantining measures that are being taken are for naught.
Discuss, if you'd like.
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:47 pm to MidnightVibe
That’s not an unpopular opinion here
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:48 pm to MidnightVibe
Inb4freshtake
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:49 pm to MidnightVibe
So you’re suggesting Trump should set up “camps” of some sort?
Yeah that would go over well.
Yeah that would go over well.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:50 pm to MidnightVibe
Wish we would have done that a few weeks ago before we killed the economy. Only a government actually thinks it could effect the spread of this virus.
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:54 pm to MidnightVibe
I think the thought by the pros is that the same amount will get the virus but if you spread it out over time it won’t overwhelm them hospitals and they can treat people more easily and have the supplies needed.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:55 pm to MidnightVibe
quote:
the current approach is not actually saving lives.
It is, but not like you think.
The goal isn't to save more people that would generally be beyond saving. Lots of folks are going to die from this. That isn't the point.
The goal is to stretch how long it happens over to prevent shortages of protective equipment for healthcare workers, hospital capacity for patients, and critical care medications and supplies to prevent many who are
quote:from being denied swift, appropriate care because there's nowhere for them to go.
treated swiftly and with appropriate measures.
Hospital systems have little excess capacity.
I'm equal parts encouraged that this will bring a healthcare shift by cutting red tape and shifting the model of medicine back to how it was in earlier days and horrified that we could just about imagine seeing civil unrest in the near horizon. I fully expect half of my favourite restaurants to close over the next 6 months as well. And as a fatass, I do not appreciate that.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:58 pm to MidnightVibe
This is the approach Sweden is taking, will be interesting to see how it works out and compare in hindsight.
Right now their deaths per million is running quite a bit higher than ours but the populations are so different the numbers may be hard to compare.
It will also be interesting to compare #'s with places that did actual lockdowns and quarantine.
The one positive note of all of this is there will be lots of data generated to help prepare for the next time this shite happens and we SHOULD have better plans in place.
Lots of questions to be answered.
Right now their deaths per million is running quite a bit higher than ours but the populations are so different the numbers may be hard to compare.
It will also be interesting to compare #'s with places that did actual lockdowns and quarantine.
The one positive note of all of this is there will be lots of data generated to help prepare for the next time this shite happens and we SHOULD have better plans in place.
Lots of questions to be answered.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:58 pm to MidnightVibe
Posted on 3/31/20 at 11:02 pm to MidnightVibe
So what do you do when the hospital are overrun? What about people looking for services for other reasons like heart attacks?
Posted on 3/31/20 at 11:04 pm to t00f
What do you do when 33% of the population can’t get treatments for illnesses due to lost healthcare/income from unemployment?
Posted on 3/31/20 at 11:05 pm to CP3
When did the ER’s stop accepting patients due to lack of insurance ?
Posted on 3/31/20 at 11:12 pm to MidnightVibe
Heat and humidity does not kill it or slow it. It’s spreading like wildfire in S. Florida and we’ve had temps in the high 80’s to low 90’s for weeks.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 11:13 pm to CP3
quote:
What do you do when 33% of the population can’t get treatments for illnesses due to lost healthcare/income from unemployment?
To date, it seems like the best answer has been, "print money and pray they don't notice the 20-year downstream effects"
Posted on 3/31/20 at 11:15 pm to t00f
The scope of that statement goes beyond an ER visit.
There’s already an estimated 45k deaths a year associated with lack of health insurance.
There’s already an estimated 45k deaths a year associated with lack of health insurance.
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 11:15 pm to t00f
quote:
When did the ER’s stop accepting patients due to lack of insurance ?
Where did he say ER? There are a lot of other places to receive healthcare than the emergency room.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 11:16 pm to t00f
quote:apparently you make them dig a hole before they give out.
So what do you do when the hospital are overrun? What about people looking for services for other reasons like heart attacks?
Posted on 3/31/20 at 11:20 pm to CP3
quote:
There’s already an estimated 45k deaths a year associated with lack of health insurance.
How sympathetic of how. Something tells me you weren't planning on voting for Bernie Sanders, though.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 11:24 pm to Chuckiee
quote:
When did the ER’s stop accepting patients due to lack of insurance ?
Where did he say ER? There are a lot of other places to receive healthcare than the emergency room.
I am sorry, I thought we are talking about people that have to be treated for coronavirus. You think the Urgent Care locations are dealing with the late term issues?
Posted on 3/31/20 at 11:24 pm to Unknown_Poster
I’m not trying to make a political statement on the current state of our healthcare system or anything. I’m just saying, a very large percentage of people losing income/healthcare will have a death toll impact of its own.
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