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re: Portland activists beat on hotel windows waiting to ambush gay Asian man
Posted on 6/4/21 at 12:14 am to GRTiger
Posted on 6/4/21 at 12:14 am to GRTiger
It's weird how I haven't heard a thing about Antifa violence but from Ngo. Not from Fox News. Not from the OT twice a week. It's weird how OANN won't cover it...
He lacks credibility because he doesn't report on right wing violence in Portland (and it's specific to Portland, the crazies on both sides have been beating each other's asses for a while now) and willing misrepresented the hammer thing. Not that assaulting a dude with a hammer is at all acceptable but it was the right winger who brought the hammer to the protest.
Ngo leaves that out though, because that's not part of the narrative that sells for him.
He tries to embed with Antifa when they all know who he is. He's trying to goad reactions. Tim Pool called him out for it, and he's not exactly a leftist.
frick the CCP in general and that genocide in particular. I'm mad when journos or celebs try to ignore that, not when the truth gets out.
ETA: I thought the trade war was a stupid plan but I did always enjoy it when Trump was an a-hole to the Chinese Gov.
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He's telling the side of the story that everyone else ignores, and yet he's the one that lacks credibility because he isn't fedding an overstuffed pig
He lacks credibility because he doesn't report on right wing violence in Portland (and it's specific to Portland, the crazies on both sides have been beating each other's asses for a while now) and willing misrepresented the hammer thing. Not that assaulting a dude with a hammer is at all acceptable but it was the right winger who brought the hammer to the protest.
Ngo leaves that out though, because that's not part of the narrative that sells for him.
He tries to embed with Antifa when they all know who he is. He's trying to goad reactions. Tim Pool called him out for it, and he's not exactly a leftist.
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Are you also mad when a Chinese journalist reports on Uhyghur enslavement in China because the journalist isn't reporting the CCP media line as well?
frick the CCP in general and that genocide in particular. I'm mad when journos or celebs try to ignore that, not when the truth gets out.
ETA: I thought the trade war was a stupid plan but I did always enjoy it when Trump was an a-hole to the Chinese Gov.
This post was edited on 6/4/21 at 12:25 am
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 12:20 am to Duke
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It's weird how I haven't heard a thing about Antifa violence but from Ngo. Not from Fox News. Not from the OT twice a week. It's weird how OANN won't cover it...
So you're back to saying it's fairy tale? Or are you agreeing with me that he's covering something no body else is?
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He lacks credibility because he doesn't report on right wing violence in Portland
Again, are you confirming my last post? You know everything about the stuff he isn't reporting, but you are only aware of the stuff he is reporting because he's the only one reporting it. You're upset because he isn't the only reporter on earth who reports both sides equally. Forgive me for assuming you're trying to discredit my statement, but how are you doing that exactly?
Posted on 6/4/21 at 12:34 am to GRTiger
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Or are you agreeing with me that he's covering something no body else is?
I'm saying plenty of outlets are covering it. There's a whole right wing media ecosystem that has given it plenty of time.
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You know everything about the stuff he isn't reporting, but you are only aware of the stuff he is reporting because he's the only one reporting it.
No I was aware of what was going on without needing Ngo. I was being pretty sarcastic about him being the only voice covering it.
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You're upset because he isn't the only reporter on earth who reports both sides equally.
I'm upset because he paints a false narrative despite having the facts. He has a history of misrepresenting things or omitting critical context to understanding what he posts, but you tell me he's just "reporting" a side.
He's not reporting, he's telling a story a group of people want to hear.
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Forgive me for assuming you're trying to discredit my statement, but how are you doing that exactly?
All I'm really trying to get you to see is you shouldn't take his version of events at face value. That he does everything you hate the MSM for doing.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 12:37 am to tiggerthetooth
Man that guy gets under the lefties skin they obsessed with him
they obsessed with him Posted on 6/4/21 at 12:40 am to Duke
Many of those outlets use his footage and reporting for their own.
The point, from my very first post, is he is no more or less credible than the outlets you use for information. You took offense to a joke pointing out the hypocrisy of dismissing a reporter because he didn't tell the side of the story you prefer, while following the others that do the same but on the preferred side.
I don't care about Ngo. This isn't to prop him up, it's to put the entire media in its proper place and context.
The point, from my very first post, is he is no more or less credible than the outlets you use for information. You took offense to a joke pointing out the hypocrisy of dismissing a reporter because he didn't tell the side of the story you prefer, while following the others that do the same but on the preferred side.
I don't care about Ngo. This isn't to prop him up, it's to put the entire media in its proper place and context.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 12:48 am to Saint Alfonzo
quote:How many times does a "journalist" have to make himself the story before you start to question his intentions?
Lol. I knew before you posted that you would go with the grifter slur. Predictable clown shite.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 12:57 am to Korkstand
It's funny the same people that hate him and say HE instigates are the same that defend the morons that stand in the middle of roads/highways.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 12:58 am to GRTiger
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The point, from my very first post, is he is no more or less credible than the outlets you use for information.
He's objectively less credible than any serious media outlet, including Fox and CNN if we're using "serious" loosely.
But honestly, that's good enough for my end goal here.
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You took offense to a joke pointing out the hypocrisy of dismissing a reporter because he didn't tell the side of the story you prefer, while following the others that do the same but on the preferred side.
It wasn't offense, though I'll admit to assuming your post in the context of the discussion Kork was having earlier. So it read like the hypocrisy that I was trying to argue against.
If it was a case of you saying "don't believe a convenient narrative at face value", then sorry for wasting an hour doing the spiderman meme with you.
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I don't care about Ngo. This isn't to prop him up
I only care about Ngo because too many people are not critical enough of the story he's selling.
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it's to put the entire media in its proper place and context.
This I can live with. I've started to take this tact due to reading some of Ben Hunt's stuff on Epsilon Theory, but he makes a really good point on media.
"Why is *insert organization* trying to sell this *insert narrative* to me?"
Posted on 6/4/21 at 1:02 am to Korkstand
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How many times does a "journalist" have to make himself the story before you start to question his intentions?
Barking up the wrong tree, I didn't post a thing about Andy, don't give a shite about him or Antifa. But it is telling that you compared Candace to Clayton Bigsby and called her a grifter. That's the clown shite I was referring to.
This post was edited on 6/4/21 at 1:04 am
Posted on 6/4/21 at 1:12 am to Saint Alfonzo
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But it is telling that you compared Candace to Clayton Bigsby and called her a grifter.
She is a grifter though but way more Ann Coulter than Clayton Bigsby. Doesn't believe everything she says but is damn good at selling it anyway. No surprise she landed a profitable role in retail politics.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 1:16 am to Duke
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And in general, conservatives don't care to hear from any sources that don't confirm that worldview
As a moderate, let me just say that liberals are not bastions of truth seeking across a spectrum of perspectives. They just happen to have way more sources within their echo chamber.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 1:23 am to Saint Alfonzo
quote:This thread is about Andy. Are you lost?
Barking up the wrong tree, I didn't post a thing about Andy, don't give a shite about him or Antifa.
quote:Was it not obvious that was a joke? Has anyone referenced Clayton Bigsby without it being a joke? And YOU were the one who suggested that others would call her a white supremacist. Andy Ngo tactics right there, baiting someone into the obvious JOKE and then trying to pass it off as their idea.
But it is telling that you compared Candace to Clayton Bigsby
quote:What of it? She was strongly anti-conservative just a few years ago, and then in her own words she "became a conservative overnight" after getting picked up by some high profile conservatives. That was good for business.
called her a grifter.
quote:Clown shite like Owens' whole schtick?
That's the clown shite I was referring to.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 1:23 am to Duke
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She is a grifter though but way more Ann Coulter than Clayton Bigsby. Doesn't believe everything she says but is damn good at selling it anyway. No surprise she landed a profitable role in retail politics.
The willful ignorance to direct this claim at Owens and ignore the same of Biden, Harris, and the crew (or whatever the frick they call themselves) is literally astounding to me. Like, making my brain hurt absurd.
This post was edited on 6/4/21 at 1:25 am
Posted on 6/4/21 at 1:26 am to cable
quote:no but they break the window and jump in: game on
Is that a situation where it would be lawful to pull out a gun and shoot a couple of those freaks?
Posted on 6/4/21 at 1:27 am to Chucktown_Badger
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As a moderate, let me just say that liberals are not bastions of truth seeking across a spectrum of perspectives
As someone with a Twitter account...
No shite.
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They just happen to have way more sources within their echo chamber.
They have a much more diverse coalition to serve with an echo chamber. Still too easy to select only the info you want to hear, no matter the political stripe.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 1:29 am to Chucktown_Badger
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The willful ignorance to direct this claim at Owens and ignore the same of Biden, Harris, and the crew (or whatever the frick they call themselves) is literally astounding to me. Like, making my brain hurt absurd.
Do I have to call out everyone who does it?
I mean I said it was a useful trait in retail politics...who all those elected officials you mentioned must be pretty good at.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 1:46 am to Korkstand
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Dorkstand
Lol. It's always the high horse liberal assholes like yourself that have some bullshite to say about conservative black people. "She's a grifter, she doesn't believe what she says, it's a schtick." frick off.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 1:52 am to Saint Alfonzo
quote:Why does everybody have to bring race into shite? Why does the OP mention that Andy is gay and Asian? Neither of those things has anything to do with why he's an a-hole.
Lol. It's always the high horse liberal assholes like yourself that have some bullshite to say about conservative black people. "She's a grifter, she doesn't believe what she says, it's a schtick."
Why did YOU bring up Candace Owens at all? To set up this race issue? I don't give two shits that she's black. She did a complete 180 on her whole political belief system overnight because it was good for her career. It's the most obvious of schticks. That's why she's a grifter.
quote:Back at you.
frick off.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 1:57 am to Saint Alfonzo
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It's always the high horse liberal assholes like yourself that have some bullshite to say about conservative black people
Nah, it's just the grifters who don't believe it.
I think Clarence Thomas has a legal and political philosophy he very much believes in. I disagree with it, don't often care for his conclusions, but I'm rarely surprised when he bucks the party line because it makes sense with how he views the law.
Tim Scott is a Republican because he believes the conservative prescription is the best thing for all. He might be the GOP senator who acts in the most good faith.
I remember Walter E. Williams filling in on Rush. He too seemed quite sincere in his positions and always well thought out.
That's just off the top of my head of black conservatives I respect.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:03 am to Korkstand
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Why does everybody have to bring race into shite? Why does the OP mention that Andy is gay and Asian? Neither of those things has anything to do with why he's an a-hole.
There's a lot of assuming what they're told liberals believe being actually what liberals believes. So you bring up his race, when it's not relevant to why he's an a-hole.
The violence done by Antifa keeps getting brought up, which is odd since no one has defended leftist political violence in this thread.
Do they know any liberals?
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