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re: Porsche fans - times are changing

Posted on 2/16/22 at 6:55 pm to
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
6389 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 6:55 pm to
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I'll take an air cooled carbureted 911


I hear people say this a lot, I wonder how many have actually driven one.

I think most younger drivers would be greatly disappointed w/ the average air cooled flat 6.
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
3236 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 6:56 pm to
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The 911 died in 1998.

Something tells me you have never driven a GT3.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31240 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 6:56 pm to
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For me to buy in to electric cars would mean I'd have to buy in to climate change. I'll never own an electric car.




Such a bizarre position to take. To never consider an electric just because of politics.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
29984 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 6:56 pm to
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BTW, it's pronounced poor-sha. Not porsh.


Not sure why the down votes unless they are taking issue with the pronunciation of poor (it would be more clear if you used por). The key is Porsche is two syllables.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 6:57 pm to
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92063 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 6:58 pm to
Not sure many realize how super fast the Taycan is - all electric. It’s ridiculously quick
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
29984 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 7:05 pm to
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I'll take an air cooled carbureted 911 over a water cooled or electric any day.


If you are talking about a reimagined one like a Singer I could agree but having owned air-cooled 911s in the past they just pale in comparison to the modern versions. I owned arguably the apogee of air-cooled 991s, the 993 Turbo (setting aside the rare GT2 widowmaker), and outside the cool and collectibility factor even a 996 was a much better-sorted car, well once the IMS issue is fixed.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
29984 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 7:26 pm to
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Is that car really enjoyable to drive?


The old maxim: it is more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow applies to the Miata.

Put a set of R888s and some EBC Yellowstuff pads on a stock MX6 and it is more car than 99.99% of the population can exploit on a twisty road. An even better example is an Elise/Exige, even the low hp versions. Lightweight, modest power and laser-sharp steering makes for a fun street car. Colin Chapman is nodding.

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 7:26 pm to
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I think most younger drivers would be greatly disappointed w/ the average air cooled flat 6.

I had a Karmann/Volkswagen that Porsche graciously called the "914". Does that count?

A friend of mine had a '73 Carrera with the 6cyl boxer. That was the best get the frick outta here mobile. P/W ratio was excellent in that car. The handling was the whole trick. It helped to have driven Volkswagens with the weight over the real wheels. Once you got used to that, cornering those little 911s was a charge.
Posted by Tigerbythetale
Las Vegas
Member since Aug 2014
1458 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 7:29 pm to

THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE !

Actually the performance of the electric 911 will far outstrip the ICE model even in the turbo configuration.

Weight distribution will be far more even eliminating the dangerous oversteer for which the 911 is famous.
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
3236 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 7:34 pm to
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Actually the performance of the electric 911 will far outstrip the ICE model even in the turbo configuration.

mine revs to 9000 and is more than fast enough to handle. Gonna take a lot of convincing for me give up the mechanical scream
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 7:40 pm to
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Something tells me you have never driven a GT3.


No.

Something tells me you've never worked on one.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
29984 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 7:47 pm to
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Weight distribution will be far more even eliminating the dangerous oversteer for which the 911 is famous.


Snap oversteer was pretty much engineered out by the 996, even with the Turbo versions of the 997/991/992 you have to be pretty liberal with the go pedal to rotate the car mid-corner and really have to ham footed to lose the rear even with a sudden lift. A driving style honed in 911s prior to the 996 will make you slow in 996s and newer, using a driving style learned in a newer 911 will make you dead in an older one.
Posted by Tigerbythetale
Las Vegas
Member since Aug 2014
1458 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 7:47 pm to

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gonna take a lot of convincing to get me to give up the mechanical scream



What does your 911 scream ?

Does it say "Notice me, I drive a Posche ?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28080 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 7:48 pm to
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BTW, it's pronounced poor-sha. Not porsh.



Interesting.

I've been to the Porsche NA HQ in Atlanta several times and nobody who worked there pronounced it that way.
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
3236 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 7:49 pm to
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No.

Something tells me you've never worked on one.

pull an engine? no. do maintenance, brake work , exhaust, yes.
Posted by TomBuchanan
East Egg, Long Island
Member since Jul 2019
6269 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 7:50 pm to
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Tesla seems to have shown electric cars can be fast as hell. What is it exactly about a gas powered engine makes it so much more appealing than an electric?



How about the sounds and smells and feel of a beautiful 1970s Porsche? get the frick outta here
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 8:01 pm to
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I had a Karmann/Volkswagen that Porsche graciously called the "914". Does that count


I had a 1989 944S2 and the handling on that car was like it was on rails. The 944 had many innovations. I miss the hell out of it. Such a connected feeling to the road.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 8:02 pm to
70s and 80s Porsche are tops for me. That was the greatest era.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 8:03 pm to
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I've been to the Porsche NA HQ in Atlanta several times and nobody who worked there pronounced it that way.


It’s a family name and the family says Porsh-a so your Georgia Hicks in Atlanta don’t know what the frick they’re saying.
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