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re: Police seize woman's car for $20 in drugs, she wins pyrrhic victory in court

Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:15 am to
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:15 am to
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forfeiture should ONLY be used when there is evidence that drug money was used to buy the vehicle.

Taking a car for a gram of pot?/ BS!


The law was written in a way that is defensible and understandable. Of course the police will abuse their power and push enforcement to the max and beyond.

Its amazing to me that they are surprised when the public mistrusts or even hates them.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
98817 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:16 am to
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I'm against these forfeiture laws but this is a bit over the top.


Not if you were the one who delivered pizzas for a living and your only means for $$ was such.

What is the threshold for seizure anyway in most states? An ounce+?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139231 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:17 am to
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Let someone walk up to you and take your car. You means of making a living and getting around. I bet you would call it a traumatic experience.

Well, that 's not really what happened here. She should have known this was a possibility.

Like I said, I don't agree with the law and I think weed should be legal but she did commit a crime.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
36432 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:18 am to
I file this under, "should have known better". Don't fricking drive around with illegal drugs in your car. It's pretty common sense.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74905 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:22 am to
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Don't fricking drive around with illegal drugs in your car. It's pretty common sense.


How else you supposed to get them, call a delivery service?

Pot should be legal, much safer than liquor. We know know it's illegality was based on it's perceived untaxability. Now that we see states making millions taxing it, the prohibition should end soon.

Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:23 am to
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Barring another round of appeals, Ross may finally be able to claim victory. Assistant Wayne County Prosecutor Maria Miller told The Detroit News that her office is currently reviewing its options.

But with her car already gone, that victory will be bittersweet at best. Ross and her lawyer are considering further action for compensation, meaning more court dates, more legal fees and more headaches.


Pieces of shite.

So they're Just holding on to the ball and going litigate this to death regardless of the outcome. They're playing around with tax money and they have no personal stake in it. She's just a lowly peasant burning her money trying to fight the Police overlords.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:24 am to
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What is the threshold for seizure anyway in most states? An ounce+?


Anything you materially used in the commission of a crime.

And then they only have to show you probably used it. That's on the assumption you hire a lawyer and fight it out in court, assuming they didn't seize those funds too . They are under no obligation to give you counsel in court.

Pretty scary to think you're a police report and a judge believing it away from losing anything you own.

There was a case in Philly last year about a father who lost his house because his son sold $40 of drugs out of it.

quote:

Christos Sourovelis already considered May 8 - the day he dropped his son off for a stint in court-ordered rehab - as one of the worst in his life. Then, it got worse.

That afternoon, more than a month after police arrested their son for selling $40 worth of drugs outside of their house in the city's Somerton section, Sourovelis received a frantic call from his wife. Officers had returned, and this time they were looking to take their home.



LINK
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:25 am to
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forfeiture should ONLY be used when there is evidence that drug money was used to buy the vehicle.



Forfeiture should only be used in the event of a criminal conviction in a court of law by a jury and an intelligent and college educated judge.

Not out on route 49 in bumfrick by some hillbilly cop who could barely pass his GED exam.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61606 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 10:26 am to
I see this as taking advantage of the poor.

They figured they could take her shite and get away with it because she's a poor pizza delivery driver. We all know they wouldn't try to seize and sell an upper middle class white kid's car over a gram of pot.
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