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re: Police released video of the fatal shooting of unarmed black man in Oklahoma
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:39 pm to JesusQuintana
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:39 pm to JesusQuintana
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The white conservatives here
I ain't white, breh.
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Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:41 pm to Topwater Trout
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you seem smart enough to comply roger but maybe you aren't and you would get shot b/c of how you view police and you aren't going to allow them to tell you what to do...shite I am going to stand my ground b/c im a man
It has nothing to do with being a man. It has everything to do with forcing the government to realize that citizens understand the law.
There are enough abuses of law enforcement to realize even law abiding citizens can get the shaft.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:41 pm to JesusQuintana
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"Oh well. He should have listened to the officer and he wouldn't be dead"
Thats half of it......he should have listened to the officer and NOT reached in his vehicle and he wouldn't be dead
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:41 pm to JesusQuintana
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JesusQuintana
Please read my post on page 28 if you don't mind.
I appreciate what you are saying.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:42 pm to tgrbaitn08
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actually they did
What crime did they have probable cause to believe he committed?
Having your car break down in the middle of the intersection isn't a crime.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:42 pm to JesusQuintana
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The white conservatives here are pulling this comply or die bullshite...
So do you suggest non compliance when dealing with the police?
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:43 pm to tgrbaitn08
There is no evidence of a crime being committed just a citizen who's fearful his car will blowup.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:43 pm to JesusQuintana
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I'm not going to argue this silly shite with you. Read through the thread. Hop on Twitter and read comments. Hell, go ask some of your conservative buddies.
You make quite a lot of assumptions based on nothing.
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The overwhelming consensus among conservatives in these situations is "Oh well. He should have listened to the officer and he wouldn't be dead"
I mean, that should be the overwhelming consensus among anyone because it is a true statement. Doesn't mean the cops operated correctly either. This statement, however, is not what you said.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:43 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It has everything to do with forcing the government to realize that citizens understand the law.
There are enough abuses of law enforcement to realize even law abiding citizens can get the shaft.
but you will agree that if a police officer ask you to put your hands in the air and you have guns pointed at you and if you dont comply and instead reach for something in your car that you're likely to be shot dead?
This post was edited on 9/20/16 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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So, you agree the problem is with cops, not the citizens?
In some cases. However I don't think cops are out there looking to murder us I think most bad shootings are due to poor training and simple human error.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:44 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Had no clue you were black 
Woo Pig
But this case is very compelling. The video clearly shows the drivers window as up all the way, not down. The cop claims he was reaching inside. I conclude, as cops will if I fricked up, that ignorance of the law or facts isn't a defense. Murder. frick em.
Woo Pig But this case is very compelling. The video clearly shows the drivers window as up all the way, not down. The cop claims he was reaching inside. I conclude, as cops will if I fricked up, that ignorance of the law or facts isn't a defense. Murder. frick em.
This post was edited on 9/20/16 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:44 pm to PropofolPapi
dindu
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:44 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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quote:
I'm not going to argue this silly shite with you. Read through the thread. Hop on Twitter and read comments. Hell, go ask some of your conservative buddies.
You make quite a lot of assumptions based on nothing.
Like stereotyping, which I've been told makes you literally Hitler.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:46 pm to TJGator1215
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There is no evidence of a crime being committed just a citizen who's fearful his car will blowup.
In others words he didndu anything wrong..the cops just drove up and shot him for no reason.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:46 pm to TJGator1215
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There is no evidence of a crime being committed just a citizen who's fearful his car will blowup
While true, the cops don't know why this guy is reaching into this car that "might blowup". Why is the car going to blow up? Why is this man reaching into a car if he knows it might blow up?
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:47 pm to tgrbaitn08
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but you will agree that if a police officer ask you to put your hands in the air and you have guns pointed at you and if you dont comply and instead reach for something in your car that you're likely to be shot dead?
Were his hands in the car? I couldn't tell. Looks like the door was closed and window up.
His hands were in the air for most of the video.
This post was edited on 9/20/16 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:47 pm to Topwater Trout
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However I don't think cops are out there looking to murder us I think most bad shootings are due to poor training and simple human error.
Absolutely!
This x's a million.
Most shootings are justified.. many of the ones that aren't are often poor decision making IMO.. but not racially motivated.. just incompetence.. which is still A BIG DEAL.. but that is something we can all rally behind fighting.
The problem is who is even going to want to be a cop in today's time?
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:47 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It has everything to do with forcing the government to realize that citizens understand the law.
do you really think it is worth the risk, getting shot dead, to challenge the cops on the street when you feel your rights are being violated?
I would rather do what it takes not to get shot and then use the legal system to try to get justice.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:47 pm to tgrbaitn08
Anybody who claims they know exactly what happened simply by watching that video is goddamn liar.
This post was edited on 9/20/16 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:48 pm to upgrayedd
Breaking news they just disclosed that pcp was recovered from the SUV. Not that that justifies the shooting but it certainly explains some things. Car parked in the middle of the road, not listening to orders, etc.
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