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re: Pogy boats dumped 850,000 fish off Louisiana coast

Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:21 am to
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:21 am to
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Help me understand this.

The nets are killing the fish?

Don't the boats want the fish to come on board alive? Or is it ok if they come on board dead?

And why are they dumping fish? Why would they catch fish simply to dump them back in the water?


The nets are capturing ALL fish not just the targeted pogys. This includes a shite ton of redfish. They cannot survive the net capture and time on deck (out of water). They dump the dead fish back over. Fisherman see it all the time out on the water but it's only apparent to the general public when it all ends up on a shoreline due to a busted net.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:21 am to
Instead of the OT banding together to vote for some dog contest, maybe we can put efforts towards something useful like this
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59714 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:24 am to
We need to start going whale wars on them.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
21948 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:25 am to
Because Louisana has no wanton waste laws. As long as the boat is not in possession of the fish, ie. in a cooler, they can throw every dead redfish they catch back overboard with no repercussions.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16596 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:26 am to
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Why does LA allow people to rape our resources?


The vast majority of LA people are unawares. Pogy boats are major political donors to keep ruling powers approving or denying proposed law which would favor the pogy industry. These are foreign owned entities and shouldn't be allowed to operate within any U.S. state water.

Louisiana allows this to take place because of how easy it is to toss a politician a few bones and have them do their bidding. It's the same as any 3rd world locale with bountiful natural resources. They get pimped and raped by foreign entities who care not for tomorrow or the detrimental effect of current operations.
Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2006
9323 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:27 am to
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Senator Robert Hensgens of district 26 in Abbeville has been the main opponent of these bills. He's the pogie boat industries protector and I imagine it has to do with $$$$ going into his campaign coffers.



Their plant south of Abbeville does provide a decent amount of jobs to that area, so that could be his motivation. That being said - that industry is fricking the fish habitat in the gulf
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:28 am to
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We need to start going whale wars on them.


Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:33 am to
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If there redfish limits, and the pogy boats are catching redfish in their nets even as a by-product, how are the boats / pilots / companies not being hit with fines and penalties for exceeding redfish limits?


Bc they have a 20% by product exemption

I think it’s 20%
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65911 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:34 am to
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This N La baw gives no fricks.

The CCA dude was on 1130 KWKH yest crying about muh dead fish.


Pretty trashy stance for you to have IYAM.
Posted by HillabeeBaw
Hillabee Reservoir
Member since May 2023
1514 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:37 am to
Outdoor Board
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16596 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:40 am to
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This N La baw gives no fricks


That's because you're a dumbarse. A shite ton of tourism dollars and fishing liscenses sold are due to people coming to Louisiana to fish for redfish. This benefits you and all other Louisiana citizens. This even more so benefits you if you enjoy any sort of hunting or fishing. That can all go away with decline/collapse of the coastal fishery which absolutely can and will happen
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 10:50 am
Posted by Park duck
Sip
Member since Oct 2018
396 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:47 am to
There is most definitely a wanton waste law
Posted by Park duck
Sip
Member since Oct 2018
396 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:49 am to
double post
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 10:50 am
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21950 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:50 am to
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Help me understand this.

The nets are killing the fish?
They're huge nets that a couple of boats set out in a circle around the school of pogeys. Then they pull the nets tight, trapping everything in there and the big mother ship comes to pull everything aboard. Hundreds of thousands of fish crammed together in a net depletes all the oxygen in that water, so the fish suffocate to death before they even get pulled out of the water.

quote:

Don't the boats want the fish to come on board alive? Or is it ok if they come on board dead?
They don't care. The target species is all going on ice and to a processing plant anyway to be turned into fish oil and pet food

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And why are they dumping fish? Why would they catch fish simply to dump them back in the water?
Dumping the unwanted bycatch. Or in the case from Holly Beach a while back, they cut the nets loose because there was so much weight in there that the mother ship wasn't able to pull the net out of the water
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14000 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:51 am to
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. A shite ton of tourism dollars and fishing liscenses sold are due to people coming to Louisiana to fish for redfish. This benefits you and all other Louisiana citizens. This even more so benefits you if you enjoy any sort of hunting or fishing. That can all go away with decline/collapse of the coastal fishery which absolutely can and will happen
the only benefit is to LDWF to enable more harassment upon the rec fishermen. I don’t know what a pogy is but it’s clear what’s going on. LDWF ain’t on your nor my side.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:52 am to
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. I don’t know what a pogy is but it’s clear what’s going on


I don't know anything about the topic but it's clear what's going on.

Nice
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
2904 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:57 am to
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Jeff Landry is in bed with these foreign owned scumbags. All other candidates said they'd push for stronger restrictions on the pogy/menhaden fishing industry.
He also tried to push a regulation in Congress that would have required offshore rigs to have a work boat nearby. The marine industry are his biggest contributors.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14000 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:58 am to
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I don't know anything about the topic but it's clear what's going on. Nice
lol it’s a simple concept I needn’t be a fisheries biologist or coastal fisher person to figure it out.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16596 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:59 am to
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He also tried to push a regulation in Congress that would have required offshore rigs to have a work boat nearby.


What's the rationale for this? Those rigs get serviced by OSV's don't they?
Posted by lsumailman61
Gulf Shores
Member since Oct 2006
7611 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:59 am to
On a good East wind my childhood home was within smelling distance of that Pogy plant South of Abbeville in Intracoastal City.
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