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Posted on 10/29/17 at 10:14 pm
Posted by Unobtanium
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
1593 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 10:14 pm
Having trouble with a toilet at my mother's (86 yrs old, no pic's, no PIIHB or WYHI jokes please) house.

On a normal flush, water drains from the tank and just circles the bowl. Waste never gets flushed out so it makes for a nasty bowl situation. However, when I dump water from a bucket straight into the bowl, bowl contents flush and everything works as intended. Toilet is 50 yrs old, so I'm thinking there may be stoppage between the tank and the bowl outlets.

Any help appreciated.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75193 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 10:16 pm to
quote:

Toilet is 50 yrs old


I think we found the problem
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
4498 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 10:19 pm to
Replace the toilet. Newer toilet use much less water and flush better than those old toilets anyway. Not an expensive thing to change.
This post was edited on 10/29/17 at 10:20 pm
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56028 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 10:20 pm to
pretty damn odd sounding. when you flush with the tank top off, does the tank look like it is emptying properly? does the flapper close before the tank is empty stopping the flush too early? is it full up to the normal level before it is flushed?

I get the feeling that the flapper ball that stops the hole at the bottom of the tank is busted, so it is not catching air. This will let the flapper ball close too early resulting on only half of a flush. Try holding down the flush lever until the tank empties and see if you get a complete flush that way...
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 10:21 pm to
I lay pipe, what’s the question again?
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 10:23 pm to
my guess is that the tank flapper isn't opening all the way and thus the bowl isn't getting enough of a rush of water to create the temporary siphon which makes a toilet flush.


Try reaching in and manually pull up the flapper.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62773 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 10:24 pm to
You have to have enough water present in order to create the flush. It's all based on water pressure. Seems like not enough water is coming out of the tank and not all at once.

Flapper problem, IMO.

Even if the toilet is that old, I wouldn't run out to buy a new one just yet.

Do note, there are quite a few folks that want old toilets and not the new ones, since the old ones flush way more water per flush than the newer ones allow.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15098 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 10:26 pm to
quote:

Toilet is 50 yrs old


quote:

I think we found the problem


A 50 year old toilet is better than the ones made today. There aren't but a couple of parts in a toilet tank.

Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12330 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 10:28 pm to
Seems like a water pressure issue.. check the stopper in the bowl and or just change out the bowl mechanics. Easy and cheap.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15098 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 10:31 pm to
Is the chain lifting the flapper in the tank all the way open when you flush it?
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 10:39 pm to
quote:

A 50 year old toilet is better than the ones made today.
I couldn't disagree more. I recently replaced one that was in the 50 year range. Had a big tank. I love the new smaller tank toilet. Has a lot more pressure and fills fast and shuts off in about 1/4 the time.
Posted by Bullfrog
Institutionalized but Unevaluated
Member since Jul 2010
56241 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 10:45 pm to
The vent in the roof maybe clogged. Get on the roof and run a hose pipe down it then blast it out with the water on full blast to try to clear any obstruction.

Also, change out all the toilet guts.
This post was edited on 10/29/17 at 10:48 pm
Posted by LSU999
Member since Nov 2012
9117 posts
Posted on 10/29/17 at 11:19 pm to
Check the flapper chain. I have a very old toilet and had the same issue one time.

If for some reason you do want to change that toilet out, there are lots of people who would buy it or take it off your hands.
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
96190 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 5:28 am to
If you do decide to replace, go with the Kohler Cimmaron!!
Posted by dawgsjw
Member since Dec 2012
2114 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 8:37 am to
quote:

Try holding down the flush lever until the tank empties and see if you get a complete flush that way...


Instructions unclear. Dick is now properly lodged in sink drain.
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