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Posted on 12/30/19 at 2:49 pm to Bedhog
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Had to be like the Addison crash.
Purely my opinion, but judging by the length of the debris field left in the LFT crash, I can't help but think there was an attempt to land in the field by the post office. Again, that's speculation. The Addison crash was more of a VMC roll/departure from controlled flight to a steep impact angle IIRC.
This post was edited on 12/30/19 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 12/30/19 at 2:55 pm to Bedhog
Yeppers
Posted on 12/30/19 at 2:56 pm to HerkFlyer
I think the pilot was pretty old. Maybe he croaked and one of the passengers tried to turn it around and put it in the dirt.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 2:56 pm to Bedhog
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Is this the field it crashed in?
I am not familiar with the area, but it appears so.
If you go to street view you can recognize some of the areas from the photos. It looks like he was heading northwest. They clipped the powerlines on the south side of Verot School Road by the apartments and went under the power lines on the north side (according to Kaylee Hartung on OTB). Some crash photos make it look like the plane took down a couple small tree as it entered the Post Office parking lot and continued on into the empty field.
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 2:56 pm to Bedhog
Yes. That's the post office that was hit
you can see the post office and field beside it in this pic.
you can see the post office and field beside it in this pic.
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 2:57 pm to Bedhog
I’ve been under the impression it’s the field bracketed by Walmart and the post office.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 2:57 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
They said he was having bad gas before takeoff like in Hatchet.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 2:58 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
think I saw a report that the tower told them to turn right heading departing but they made a left turn instead. They had to have taken off from 4R so that doesn't make any sense. 
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:01 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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I think the pilot was pretty old
In his 50's.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:01 pm to Janky
Well nevermind then
Do you know if he was healthy?
Do you know if he was healthy?
This post was edited on 12/30/19 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:02 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
BTW, Didn't know if you were aware. Our old pilot Jim died a few years ago. He was 80 
Passed flight physicals till the age of 73
Passed flight physicals till the age of 73
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:03 pm to Bedhog
Damn. Sorry to hear that. He was a character to say the least.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:05 pm to Btrtigerfan
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Yes
The Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6 is known for its reliability with an in-flight shutdown rate of one per 333 thousand hours from 1963 to 2016,
Like the car engine example previously posted, the PT6 turbine has that reputation, if it starts it rarely quits running as long as it has fuel.
Based on available statistics mechanical failure is the least likely cause of general aviation crashes, and pilot error the most likely.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:05 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
Well nevermind then
Do you know if he was healthy?
I don't know him, but he appeared to be.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:06 pm to HerkFlyer
NTSB said it made hard left at 900 feet and was diving but right as it reached bottom of clouds it started to level out. I'm the furthest thing from a specialist in this field but that makes me wonder about his experience flying strictly by instruments. I believe JFK Jr had that issue in his crash. Possible vertigo in clouds and when he could see the ground tried to correct but too late.
1 of 1000 possibilities.
1 of 1000 possibilities.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:06 pm to Bedhog
Was the crash straight off the runway or did they turn around and head back to land?
If you have engine trouble especially on a multi engine, is it not almost always recommend to continue a straight until the issue is controlled and speed is acceptable for a turn?
If you have engine trouble especially on a multi engine, is it not almost always recommend to continue a straight until the issue is controlled and speed is acceptable for a turn?
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:07 pm to barbapapa
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:07 pm to Bedhog
I read the Preliminary NTSB Aviation Accident Preliminary Report on the Addison crash. The aircraft (BEECH BE-300) was equipped with a cockpit voice recorder (CVR). About 8 seconds before impact the CVR picked up a comment by a crew member about a problem with the left engine. Furthermore, one witness stated that as the airplane went down the runway, it seemed more quiet than normal and sounded like it did not have sufficient power to takeoff.
I don't see any indication there was a low power problem with either engine on the Piper Cheyenne (PA-31T). The aircraft reached an altitude of 900 ft then made a sharp drop.
Possibility the airplane hit something in the air? A flock of geese maybe? But then do you usually find a flock of geese at that altitude? Possible the pilot had a heart attack? I mean everything appeared normal during the climb to 900 ft. Curious as to why the pilot never made contact with the Air Control Tower after the abrupt loss of altitude? But then most likely the pilot was fighting to regain control of the aircraft.
From looking at the layout of the debris field it appears the pilot was attempting to put the airplane down in that field next to the Post Office. The powerlines got in his way.
Sad!
I don't see any indication there was a low power problem with either engine on the Piper Cheyenne (PA-31T). The aircraft reached an altitude of 900 ft then made a sharp drop.
Possibility the airplane hit something in the air? A flock of geese maybe? But then do you usually find a flock of geese at that altitude? Possible the pilot had a heart attack? I mean everything appeared normal during the climb to 900 ft. Curious as to why the pilot never made contact with the Air Control Tower after the abrupt loss of altitude? But then most likely the pilot was fighting to regain control of the aircraft.
From looking at the layout of the debris field it appears the pilot was attempting to put the airplane down in that field next to the Post Office. The powerlines got in his way.
Sad!
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