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re: Plane crash in Hammond

Posted on 10/14/15 at 6:41 pm to
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 6:41 pm to
Damn. I used to fly around quite a bit in a 421 up until the company bought a King Air.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 7:10 pm to
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Is that a piston or turboprop?


The 421 was manufactured as a piston twin, but a few have been modified to turbines making it essentially a C425.
Posted by Speys and Tays
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 7:14 pm to
Geared turbo charged piston engine. Piece of shite
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 7:18 pm to
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I believe most traffic in Hammond is small prop aircraft. The runway is long enough for some corporate jets and military aircraft, but primarily used by smaller single and twin props.

The longest runway is 6,502 feet. That's long enough for any narrow body commercial service. Now none of that flies there but the runway is plenty long.
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 7:24 pm to
I hated flying 421s
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 7:25 pm to
There were some rather substantially sized private jets using Hammond back when the Saints held training camp at SLU. Not sure if the runway has been extended since 1986 - '87.
Posted by Fishwater
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 7:59 pm to
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The longest runway is 6,502 feet. That's long enough for any narrow body commercial service. Now none of that flies there but the runway is plenty long.


Pensacola airport is only 6,500 ft and they have 757-200's from ATL come in, along with 738's and A320's. 6,500 is plenty.
Posted by Speys and Tays
Member since Dec 2014
340 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:02 pm to
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I hated flying 421s


They do suck.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
178358 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:04 pm to
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Pensacola airport is only 6,500 ft and they have 757-200's from ATL come in, along with 738's and A320's. 6,500 is plenty.

That's what I said
Posted by Speys and Tays
Member since Dec 2014
340 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:06 pm to
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The 421 was manufactured as a piston twin, but a few have been modified to turbines making it essentially a C425.


It is most certainly not anything like a c425. Different wing, fuel system, pressurization, and turbine engine. Don't talk about shite you have no idea about.
Posted by Speys and Tays
Member since Dec 2014
340 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:08 pm to
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There were some rather substantially sized private jets using Hammond back when the Saints held training camp at SLU. Not sure if the runway has been extended since 1986 - '87.

I have flown several different types of jets in and out of Hammond, from Citation to Gulfstream Vs it is certainly large enough.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38241 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:16 pm to
isn't it worse to lose the left engine over the right engine? Or is that specific to a jet/turboprop/piston engine airplane?
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38241 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:18 pm to
quote:

Citations to Gulfstream Vs



Well that's quite the contrast
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:20 pm to
I want to hear more about this crash, but I also want to hear about these Saban haircuts. Sounds like be to me.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:24 pm to
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isn't it worse to lose the left engine over the right engine? Or is that specific to a jet/turboprop/piston engine airplane?


It's worse to the lose the left engine and it's specific to prop planes regardless of whether or not it's a piton or turboprop. More thrust is created on the downward stroke of the propeller and propellers turn clockwise. So on the left engine the downward stroke of the propeller and the majority of the thrust is closer to the centerline of the airplane. Conversely the majority of thrust from the right engine is further outboard away from the centerline so if you lose the left engine nearly all of your thrust is far away from the centerline of the airplane causing a much more drastic yawing motion to the left.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:25 pm to
bullshite
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:26 pm to
Okay
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38241 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:31 pm to
Thanks for the refresher. My dad flew a Kingair 200 and Hawker 800 until he retired 20+ years ago. These responses bring back memories of things he used to tell me.

Posted by Furbs311
South Carolina
Member since Oct 2005
537 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:33 pm to
Critical engine.. Day one of multi engine training!
This post was edited on 10/14/15 at 8:34 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

It is most certainly not anything like a c425. Different wing, fuel system, pressurization, and turbine engine. Don't talk about shite you have no idea about.


Yea, other than the 425 being a redesign of the 421 they are not anything alike.
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