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re: Philadelphia approves safe injection sites for heroin and other drugs
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:23 pm to Ed Osteen
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:23 pm to Ed Osteen
quote:
Because cops in places like philly don’t give a shite about a drug possession arrest, especially some junkie using a free clinic for clean needles
I guess
Seems like an easy way to see where they are getting the drugs from. Monitor who is coming in and out and watch where they get the drugs then bust up the crack house. I doubt these places get much use as long as it’s illegal
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Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:23 pm to Dr Lecter
Huh? This basically is Hamsterdam minus the actual selling of drugs
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:25 pm to WaWaWeeWa
They will get used plenty. Legal injection sites aren’t something philly just created, they have been around for a while. Multiple states are in the process of introducing bills to legalize them
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:35 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
quote:Seattle still hasn't managed to open one three years after voting for them. Everyone thinks it's a great idea until you want to open one in their neighborhood.
Wonderful. They're applying the Seattle model of epic fail.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:42 pm to northshorebamaman
What happens when after the first OD and the family sues the city for basically sanctioning illegal activity?
Taxpayers lose out twice.
Taxpayers lose out twice.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:44 pm to biglego
quote:
The comma placement makes it seem like the city is providing the heroin
I thought the same
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:45 pm to brass2mouth
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:51 pm to OweO
quote:
How? There are some countries that provide heroin to addicts so that they know what amount they are getting and it has also had an impact on crime (lower crime).
Public executions, cutting off hands for stealing, chopping dicks off for sexual assult,etc. would lower crime too. Doesn't mean we should do it. Using tax $ to get people high is fricking retarded.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:53 pm to OWLFAN86
You linked a homeless shelter that has the following policy
What am I missing?
quote:
Be drug and alcohol free, upon campus bed availability a Urine Analysis (UA) will be completed to screen for drugs and alcohol
What am I missing?
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:53 pm to brass2mouth
I’m sure nobody has thought of this.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:57 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:for a BED
Be drug and alcohol free, upon campus bed availability a Urine Analysis (UA) will be completed to screen for drugs and alcohol
but space to use drugs is provided for those who so choose
keeps some of the activity off the streets and medical emergencies can be dealt with
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:58 pm to OWLFAN86
You literally linked a homeless shelter that says “walking distance to detox” and says you can/will be asked to leave if you commit a felony/misdemeanor on the property.
Nothing about a drug safe zone that I saw.
Nothing about a drug safe zone that I saw.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:59 pm to OweO
quote:
How? There are some countries that provide heroin to addicts so that they know what amount they are getting and it has also had an impact on crime (lower crime).
Probably because a population that’s always loaded isn’t a moral or productive population?
Junkies are fricking losers.
Here’s the thing, yeah yeah, drugs for the most part should be legal in a supposedly free nation. But...the government shouldn’t be fricking incentivizing people get loaded. Wtf kind of message is that?
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 11/12/19 at 10:03 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:Could you link the page on the site that addresses this? I can't find it listed in the services offered.
but space to use drugs is provided for those who so choose
Posted on 11/12/19 at 10:07 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:been there and seen it, as part of a best practices study
Could you link the page on the site that addresses this? I can't find it listed in the services offered.
its not advertised to the public that might give funds since its an ugly truth
They also have a Veteran Housing program that isnt on the website, not all of it anyway
Posted on 11/12/19 at 10:15 pm to OWLFAN86
I saw that they offer a "low barrier" courtyard where it looks like they probably look the other way to IV use. I was just wondering if it was equivalent to the Seattle proposition of having health workers actually supervise injections. I'm thinking it's not.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 10:18 pm to Ed Osteen
quote:
I’m sure nobody has thought of this.
Nothing surprises me with government, especially when it comes to planning anything.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 10:18 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:correct
I saw that they offer a "low barrier" courtyard where it looks like they probably look the other way to IV use. I was just wondering if it was equivalent to the Seattle proposition of having health workers actually supervise injections. I'm thinking it's not.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 10:25 pm to OWLFAN86
And for the record, I'm not opposed to safe injection sites. The problem is nobody wants them around their neighborhood or their business. And who can blame them?
Seattle tried to solve this with mobile injection vans but the state AG said he would have them seized the second they hit a public street.
Seattle tried to solve this with mobile injection vans but the state AG said he would have them seized the second they hit a public street.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 10:27 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:That is fricking retarded.
Typically, a site is stocked with naloxone, the antidote to overdoses of illegal fentanyl, and heroin, as well as oxygen, which helps revive overdose victims. Users bring in drugs obtained on the street and are monitored as they inject or smoke the drugs in an effort to prevent overdoses. Some sites also provide clean syringes, matches for cooking heroin, elastic strips to tie off veins, water to dilute drugs and other provisions.
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