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re: PhD student arrested after being accused of stealing his own car (dashcam vid)

Posted on 1/13/17 at 5:20 pm to
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37798 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 5:20 pm to
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He's getting paid and all of them are finding another profession

He's getting paid and some of them might get paid administrative leave.
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
10341 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 5:45 pm to
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I am all for complying but I would not be too happy if the cops pulled me over telling me to get on the ground unprompted.


My uncle was driving in Huntsville when a police car pulled in front and behind him in a busy intersection. Told him to get out of the car and lay face down. He did as he was told and was handcuffed. Come to find out someone had robbed a pharmacy and the car matched his. It got straightened out and he went out n his way. Could have gone a lot different if he would have got out of his car acting all Billy bad arse.
He did say three different people he knew drove by starring at him as he stood there handcuffed. That would suck.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37798 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 5:50 pm to
Also why did this woman think he was breaking into the car? He obviously had a key to drive it.
Never mind. On the video he is talking to someone and telling them he was standing outside of his car trying to fix something on his roof. But most of us know that's not the only reason she thought he was stealing a car.

Other than getting out the car, the young man handled it perfectly fine. He put his hands up and kept them up when they told him too. Then about 10 of them started hollering at him. It's no wonder he could not figure out what they wanted him to do. Then they rushed him brought him to the ground. There was no evidence of him resisting other than the tried and true "stop resisting " chants from the officers. Further evidence of him not resisting is he was handcuffed pretty much almost immediately. To all of those saying he should have been polite, screw off. He was more polite than any average motorist.

And then completely unprompted, the woman says to the dispatcher "I did not mean to racially profile". bullshite

And finally, of course the officers had to find some bullcrap charge to stick on him for their troubles caused by the woman
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 6:05 pm
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19094 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 6:20 pm to
Yeah the racist south oh wait where?
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
19978 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 6:31 pm to
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There's a lot of factors at play.



Yeah, one black man entering one vehicle. I'm not saying the cops didn't do what they were supposed to. But the fact of the matter is they should have never been in the first place. I don't know how you could mistake someone stealing a car when they have the fricking keys unless you're prejudging the accused.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 6:31 pm
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34878 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 6:32 pm to
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The police should have approached the vehicle with out the fanfare, explained to the driver why he was being stopped, and asked for the driver's license and registration. Once the cop saw the car was not stolen, say "Thank you sir. I apologize for the inconvenience. Have a nice day."


How is this even possible? The only thing the cops knew was that this guy just broke into a car.. they have no idea he's not a thief or a POS. He gets out the car kind of quick with something in his hands.. he completely ignored the police - I feel that the officers acted appropriately

I'm usually with the majority on these types of things but I guess I'll just state my opinion and get blasted for it
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
19978 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 6:34 pm to
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obviously, you have no idea of what the definition of racism is do you?


ever heard of a white man get mistaken for stealing his own damn car? Me neither.
Posted by wheelr
Banned
Member since Jul 2012
5851 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 6:36 pm to
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This was a call about a vehicle theft in progress ( felony). Training is that officers do a felony stop in these situations, not casually walk up and ask the suspected felon if he just stole this car.


POSSIBLE vehicle theft in progress. The guy wasn't driving erratically nor was his identity known(criminal history, etc).

He was just going about his day and had no clue why he was getting pulled over. He should be given the benefit of the doubt and treated like a free citizen.

quote:

Deviating from training can lead to bad situations for all involved


Seems you now have a bad situation in this case.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 6:53 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 6:57 pm to
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The police should have approached the vehicle with out the fanfare, explained to the driver why he was being stopped, and asked for the driver's license and registration.
Even though they're taking a call about a car theft, the guy gets out of the car unprompted, and he has an object in his hand that(unless I missed it) I doubt the cops can immediately tell what it is in that immediate initial moment?
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
19978 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:36 pm to
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Meh. I meet all cops at the rear of the vehicle.



You're also white Rando. Lol. I'd never do this anywhere, let alone when I go to SELA to visit kinfolk.

But admittedly I've always followed followed procedure. Dad was a cop in grad school and drilled it into us.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17106 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:40 pm to
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I am all for complying but I would not be too happy if the cops pulled me over telling me to get on the ground unprompted.

What he should have done is asked the cops if he is being detained. If he was told yes he should of said under what cause. The cops would have told him and then he could have explained his case. Problem averted.


Are you fricking kidding? Cops have to confront people with limited information. If cops come at you telling you to get on the ground you are going to ask if you are being detained? You ever think that cops, like in this situation, get information from callers that may lead them to believe you fit the description of a dangerous or wanted subject or that you committed a crime and may be armed and dangerous?

Do you people think cops have crystal balls? They are fallible and their job places them in conditions dealing with dumbass and dangerous people on a daily basis and that goes for perps and people calling requesting police action for some reason or another alike. Not just fricking cooperating so the issue can be resolved peacefully while they have detained you only serves to dramatically increase the likelihood of confusion and conflict.

This shite ain't rocket science people.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33216 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:58 pm to
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The stupid bitch that called and followed him should be charged.


She's kind of a fricking George Zimmerman starter kit.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62044 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:09 pm to
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You're really fricking stupid.


Don't you fricking talk to me like that, boy. I'll meet you at any Sonic and slap you upside your fricking face. While eating a goddamn Butterfinger Blast, motherfricker.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15910 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:46 pm to
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Edit: Well, I forgot that he left his car unprompted. That was a no-no.


He was swarmed by like 3 cops car. I'm sure he was scared shitless and had no idea what to do
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 12:39 am to
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get headlines try to sensationalize, but the police don't know if it's his car or not. All they know is they got a call from someone who saw someone "breaking into" the car.


And yet the police are too lazy to do their own work before harassing this innocent man?

My friend bought a car from his brother who works a dealership. I was in the car with him, when we got pulled over. The cop came and said the car was reported stolen, which was utter bull shite. After some more bullshite time, they 'fixed' the problem, but I'm quiet sure they used the 'stolen' as a means to search the car if needed (luckily he was white).

So yeah, cops can and will make up bullshite reasons.
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 12:47 am to
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I believe the figure is actually more like 99,999 out of 100,000. It's very simple. Stay in car, produce license/insurance/registration (if items are in pocket/glovebox then notify officer if he is at the window or approaching when you go to get it, wait, have chuckle and drive on.


bullshite


Just like these thugs?

Or this white thug?

Too bad this thug didn't comply
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 12:52 am to
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This was a call about a vehicle theft in progress ( felony). Training is that officers do a felony stop in these situations, not casually walk up and ask the suspected felon if he just stole this car. Deviating from training can lead to bad situations for all involved
So why can't the sorry arse cops do their own detective work before believing this bull shite woman, who was utterly full of shite? Why can't they run his plates and find out? Why can't they see if a similar car has been reported stolen? Why must they put 100% faith into this unknown caller? WHy are they that frickin dumb?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64057 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:09 am to
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Or they could shoot you. And they have


In situations where someone has been FULLY cooperative they've been shot? Please link a situation in which the person was FULLY cooperative and police shot him anyways. Please just one.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37798 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 8:51 am to
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In situations where someone has been FULLY cooperative they've been shot? Please link a situation in which the person was FULLY cooperative and police shot him anyways. Please just one.

Sure.

"May I see your license please? "
Guy leans into car to get license.
"Get out of the car ...get out of the car"
Pow, pow, pow pow

LINK

Alleged seatbelt violation of course .
Of course, after the guy's been shot, the cop orders him on the ground and cuffs him.
This post was edited on 1/14/17 at 8:56 am
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55426 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 9:10 am to
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He's black, what a surprise. Yeah, racism is dead.


When I was in college, I was driving back to school from my hometown after midnight one weekend.

I was tailed by a car for about 3 miles when there was no one else on the interstate. I was scared. Hoped it would pass. It didn't. After about 5 minutes, the car behind me hit the lights. Trooper.

I was ordered to stay in my car. I did.

Trooper sits in his car for about 5 minutes on the side of the road. He tells me every minute or so not to move and stay in car. I did.

I was then asked to step out with my arms up. I did.

He came and put me behind my truck and told me what was going on. Stolen vehicle that fit the description of my truck. Asked me where my ID was.

Wallet in my back pocket. He told me he was going to take the wallet, to keep my hands up. I did.

He takes my wallet back to his car while I am leaning "in position" against my truck.

About one minute later he comes back, apologizes, gives me my info back, and sends me on my way. Let me know again that he was looking for a vehicle similar to mine that was reported stolen. Apologized again, gave me his card, and asked that if I was ever in his town to contact him and he would take me to lunch or something since I was visibly shaken. He explained he was doing his job and needed to leave immediately to track down the proper vehicle.

End of story. Was I pissed? Yes. Relieved? Yes. Did I follow orders? Yes. Did I live? Yes.

PS - They did find the vehicle later that week and caught the other white dude that stole the vehicle.
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