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re: Pfizer CEO: “Two doses of the vaccine offers very limited protection, if any
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:58 am to SuperSaint
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:58 am to SuperSaint
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I reluctantly got both Moderna vaccines back in September. I felt outside pressure but I admit it was on my own accord.
Main reason was because I had a 10 month old at the time and a pregnant wife and was told that It would significantly reduce my chances of catching Covid, bringing it home and spreading it to my family if I were ‘fully’ vaxxed.
If I could go back I wouldn’t have taken it. One of my biggest concerns was that they will start rolling booster after booster after booster and I wasn’t signing on to that.
You were lied to in an attempt to get you vaccinated because powers that be decided that was in your best interest and that you weren't capable of making that decision on your own.
And, I 100% understand a father making a choice to protect his newborn and his pregnant wife. That's an easy decision that any good father/husband would make given good information.
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Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:00 am to crazy4lsu
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As in, choosing a 2-dose strategy, including the interval, was based on the desire for vaccination rather than evidence that plasma cell response was fully primed.
In other words, dishonesty in an attempt to fool people into getting vaccinated.
And, you wonder why people are less trusting of doctors, now.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:03 am to MikeBRLA
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Translation….drug dealer attempts to sell more drugs
No one seems to be talking about him saying they are about to roll out version 2.0 of the shot that will protect against omicron.
How intelligent people have fallen for this scam over this mild illness is beyond me.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:05 am to lsupride87
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And where have you and others gathered this information?
You are the one drawing conclusions based on a pretty obviously manipulated statistic. Fauci himself admitted that the hospitalized children number was "with COVID" not "because of COVID". This was 2 days after Catherine O'Neil was using that number is a basis for recommending significant COVID protocol changes.
What's funny is that you hadn't even considered that possibility. You just blindly accepted the percentages even though there is ZERO evidence that the data behind that number is based on random sampling.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:07 am to Vacherie Saint
I’m still amazed that people think you can be immunized for a cold virus when flu vaccines aren’t effective for the same reason. These viruses mutate and we don’t know what the next mutation will look like in any way shape or form! This is not some random cold virus either. It was created in a lab in China by man and then let loose on the population. Death rate is extremely low in younger healthy adults so why even try to waste government money on vaccines. It’s all a $$ grab and the left and a good portion of the right have bought it hook line and sinker.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:07 am to moneyg
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In other words, dishonesty in an attempt to fool people into getting vaccinated.
Yes, like I described. Do you think I support the use of dishonesty?
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And, you wonder why people are less trusting of doctors, now
I don't wonder. I've criticized the messaging aspect several times, but that doesn't mean much.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:07 am to moneyg
quote:I “blindly” accept that data because that data is what I do and produce and audit for my livelihood
What's funny is that you hadn't even considered that possibility. You just blindly accepted the percentages even though there is ZERO evidence that the data behind that number is based on random sampling.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:07 am to crazy4lsu
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Define this 'with Covid'/'from Covid' distinction for me in clinical terms
why? We aren't discussing whether it matters from a treatment perspective. We are discussing the hidden and manipulated statistics meant to drive behavior and acceptance.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:08 am to crazy4lsu
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Do you think I support the use of dishonesty?
Indoctrination.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:08 am to moneyg
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We are discussing the hidden and manipulated statistics meant to drive behavior and acceptance.
Fact, and he isn't able to communicate on that level. he simply doesn't understand it.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 10:10 am
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:09 am to LSUBoo
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What's the difference between the first two doses and the booster?
The booster has the microchip in it
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:09 am to crazy4lsu
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Yes, like I described. Do you think I support the use of dishonesty?
Yes, that's my impression. Feel free to elaborate.
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I don't wonder. I've criticized the messaging aspect several times, but that doesn't mean much.
This isn't messaging. It's doctors and centralized medicine thinking that their expertise should be used to dictate rather than inform and recommend.
You are one of the doctors that I hope I never run into. I think you are trash.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:10 am to lsupride87
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I “blindly” accept that data because that data is what I do and produce and audit for my livelihood
So, then you are in a unique position to declaratively state that hospitals have been testing ALL patients and not just patients that are unvaccinated.
Is that what you are saying?
And, FWIW, my best guess is that the vaccines were reasonably effective that limiting severe illness early on. I think it's close to zero with Omicron. And, I think the finger has been on the scale the entire time.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 10:18 am
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:10 am to LSUJML
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The overwhelming number of death, over 75 percent, occurred in people who had at least four comorbidities," Walensky said in the posted video after Vega's question. "So really, these are people who were unwell to begin with.
So basically a year ago when all of us said, oh a vaccine. That’s good, all these unhealthy people should take it or change their lifestyle.
Fast forward a year and we are talking about putting healthy people in camps.
Who didn’t see this coming? It was obvious from the beginning that these experts were just throwing shite at a wall.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 10:11 am
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:11 am to moneyg
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It's doctors and centralized medicine thinking that their expertise should be used to dictate rather than inform and recommend.
Fact
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:12 am to crazy4lsu
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Yes, like I described. Do you think I support the use of dishonesty?
Yes
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:12 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Fact, and he isn't able to communicate on that level. he simply doesn't understand it.
I think he actually supports it...because he "knows better".
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:14 am to moneyg
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I think he actually supports it...because he "knows better".
I don't think he can separate his medical ideas from reality.
The prudent medical thing to do is all of us isolate forever, never drive, drink, smoke, eat sweets..
But we don't do the prudent medical thing because it destroys everything about life that makes it worth living. We have to become less risk averse. Today's children will be fricked up beyond repair.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 10:16 am
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:18 am to RogerTheShrubber
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But we don't do the prudent medical thing because it destroys everything about life that makes it worth living. We have to become less risk averse.
There's a big difference between indulging every now and then, and being a disgusting blob. We're 2 years into this and most people haven't made the slightest effort to make themselves less disgusting. We need to be healthier as a society but that requires too much self control.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:19 am to Ingeniero
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There's a big difference between indulging every now and then, and being a disgusting blob
You totally miss the point, not surprising at the least.
Do you think the government being nanny helps people make better decisions?
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 10:21 am
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