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re: Pet hurt while boarded at the vet

Posted on 5/9/16 at 3:21 pm to
Posted by CaliforniaTiger
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 3:21 pm to
If he was fine when you dropped him off, then they should take care of it.
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 3:24 pm to
when do you plan on picking the dog up?

if soon, i would consider taking him to another vet if they're not gonna cover the costs of his care

let them know that if he was hurt while in their care (unless you knew hed be playing with other dogs, you approved of it and thats what harmed him), then they should take care of his medicals, and if not you wont be giving them anymore of your service or money
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 3:28 pm to
Yes equine vets make a boat load of money, but for the most part they have to travel a whole hell of a lot. Or large barns will have one on call.
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 3:31 pm to
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Yes equine vets make a boat load of money, but for the most part they have to travel a whole hell of a lot. Or large barns will have one on call.



and part of your job is to get large animals to have sex with each other

Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 3:52 pm to
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equine vets make a boat load of money,



lets discuss net vs. gross and qualify that statement.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 4:01 pm to
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The AAEP survey reported that members in the organization's south central district – consisting of Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi and Tennessee – earned on average $143,560 annually.


For the profession, earning average 143k for that specialty is a boat load.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38229 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 4:03 pm to
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Thus, they will generally pay whatever the expert tells them they need to pay without questioning it to get their pet / car back.


Yeah, but no. Vets are in it for the long haul regarding the client relationship. They aren't going to recommend something based on price alone. Its up to the client to decide which option fits his budget.
I really don't get why so many people think DVMs are so unscrupulous. They run a business so yes, they need to make a profit. But they also need clients, so they aren't going to do something that runs off those clients- like overcharging or recommending unnecessary expensive treatments
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38229 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 4:05 pm to
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For the profession, earning average 143k for that specialty is a boat load.


divide that by hours worked and let me know if you think its still such a killing. God help you if you ever see what small animal practitioners make.
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 4:07 pm to
Xray indicates a traumatic injury while in their care? No pay

Xray indicates chronic problems (hips, knees)? Pay

Posted by Janky
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 4:08 pm to
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earning average 143k for that specialty is a boat load.


That is not very much. I thought they made way more than that.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
22344 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 4:08 pm to
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Yeah, but no.


Yet again, I merely stated that you would be naïve to think it doesn't happen. Not that all vets do it.

Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38229 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 4:10 pm to
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Yet again, I merely stated that you would be naïve to think it doesn't happen. Not that all vets do it.


fair enough.


But I still think there is a propensity here for people to fault the profession as over charging for service. I don't see it.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46608 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 4:11 pm to
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divide that by hours worked and let me know if you think its still such a killing. God help you if you ever see what small animal practitioners make.


With a wife that competed in show jumping for 15 years, soon to be DVM, and her uncle who owns his own clinic, I am fully aware of the industry.

Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46608 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 4:13 pm to
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That is not very much. I thought they made way more than that.


Thats the avg. Completely depends on the area you are working in. A rural vet who deals with farm horses isnt going to make nearly as much as a Racetrack or travelling DVM for show horses.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38229 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 4:20 pm to
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With a wife that competed in show jumping for 15 years, soon to be DVM, and her uncle who owns his own clinic, I am fully aware of the industry.



with a wife who is a solo practice owner of 20 years, I can tell you, you may be surprised how little you see of your spouse once she starts practicing. That $68.78/hour she earns (based off of your AAEP numbers) seems low once you experience it.
My wife has been working 7 days a week since January averaging 16-18 hrs per day wiht breeding/foaling season. She doesn't complain and I'm not either. But compared to ohter professions (and yes the often maligned plant workers) the pay isn't that great and vets aren't really cutting a fat hog in the arse. Again, I'm not complaining just pointing out the realities of someone who watches his wife word extremely hard for what she earns.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
13575 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 4:22 pm to
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Yeah, but no. Vets are in it for the long haul regarding the client relationship. They aren't going to recommend something based on price alone. Its up to the client to decide which option fits his budget. I really don't get why so many people think DVMs are so unscrupulous. They run a business so yes, they need to make a profit. But they also need clients, so they aren't going to do something that runs off those clients- like overcharging or recommending unnecessary expensive treatments


I had a similar conversation with a dentist last week. Good friends of ours, and we were asking what he thought about what the ortho and oral surgeon were suggesting. He wants to see the X-rays and 3D modeling first, but said it sounded like a racket. Said he's been around too many of them that will suggest small things here and there to boost income, and most people just accept it and pay up. But most of them are honest and in it for the long haul.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 4:23 pm to
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With a wife that competed in show jumping for 15 years,


Your wife was quite the athlete. How good was she at 'show jumping'

Did it translate at all over to the bedroom?
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46608 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 4:24 pm to
shut up

I never said she was a great athlete. Just that she rode large animals for a long time
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38229 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 4:27 pm to
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Said he's been around too many of them that will suggest small things here and there to boost income, and most people just accept it and pay up. But most of them are honest and in it for the long haul.


I always laugh when I see a thread on here about the vet recommending dental work on a pet. First, its a recommendation, its not compulsory. Is it a profit center for the DVM? Probably. But its also probably in the pet's best interest. Its up to the owner to decide if they want to pay for it. I just don't see why so many think they are being screwed (if they feel they are).
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 4:31 pm to
Once when I boarded my pug at Petsmart some bug bit him on the face and it swelled up big time to where they were worried it would affect his breathing. They called me right away to tell me what happened. Since it was at night they took him to the closest animal ER and sought treatment. They kept him overnight at the animal hospital to observe him. Petsmart called me during this whole process to update me frequently on how he was doing and assured me that they were paying for all medical costs for this.

They should pay for his care of he was injured there. Or at least offer to pay some of it.
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