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Perspective on CV worldwide...am I missing something?
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:11 pm
There are 7.77 billion people on the planet.
There are just over 150000 confirmed cases CV globally
That’s a percentage of .002% of our global population with the country of highest population (China 1.4 billion roughly) already being through the peak of the “outbreak” and declining.
Why the frick is everyone in our country freaking out???
Please help me understand
There are just over 150000 confirmed cases CV globally
That’s a percentage of .002% of our global population with the country of highest population (China 1.4 billion roughly) already being through the peak of the “outbreak” and declining.
Why the frick is everyone in our country freaking out???
Please help me understand
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Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:12 pm to tha mastablasta
People are scared of the unknown.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:14 pm to tha mastablasta
This is bigger than this virus. Think logically.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:16 pm to tha mastablasta
quote:The concept of exponential growth
am I missing something?
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:16 pm to tha mastablasta
I'm all for taking reasonable precautions, including the limiting of crowds. This is a novel virus with no known cure or vaccine and appears to be at least fairly contagious.
But I think our elected officials' idea of the cure may be worse than the disease.
It would have greatly helped for testing to be more widespread earlier in this country so we had some actual hard (and large) numbers to know what we are truly dealing with here.
But I think our elected officials' idea of the cure may be worse than the disease.
It would have greatly helped for testing to be more widespread earlier in this country so we had some actual hard (and large) numbers to know what we are truly dealing with here.
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:19 pm to tha mastablasta
quote:
Please help me understand
I imagine it does seem odd when your picture is based on cherry picking data.
For example, why focus on China’s numbers at all, when the global case rate is accelerating?
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:19 pm to Walking the Earth
quote:
It would have greatly helped for testing to be more widespread earlier in this country so we had some actual hard (and large) numbers to know what we are truly dealing with here.
Probably would have tamped diwn the panic.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:19 pm to tha mastablasta
There are not enough respirators at hospitals in the US to handle it all if we don’t somehow slow the infection rate- flattening the curve as they call it.
Although healthy adults and kids handle it well, the elderly DO NOT. You don’t want to have your local ER doc having to decide do you- who just got in a car accident- or your grandma- who just got diagnosed with Covid-19 lives or dies. One will.
There is no conspiracy or “bigger issue” as
some are speculating. There are 100,000
respirators available to hospitals today. If it ramps up like it did elsewhere- we could overwhelm our health care system....we saw that in Italy already.
ETA- for all you downvoting. My wife works in healthcare and develops vaccines for a living. The article that just came out in Nature’s medical journal about the origins of Covid-19 was written by a doctor who she is on the same staff with. Everyone needs to calm down and understand that although an inconvenience now, a lot of VERY smart people are working on keeping us alive and healthy.
Although healthy adults and kids handle it well, the elderly DO NOT. You don’t want to have your local ER doc having to decide do you- who just got in a car accident- or your grandma- who just got diagnosed with Covid-19 lives or dies. One will.
There is no conspiracy or “bigger issue” as
some are speculating. There are 100,000
respirators available to hospitals today. If it ramps up like it did elsewhere- we could overwhelm our health care system....we saw that in Italy already.
ETA- for all you downvoting. My wife works in healthcare and develops vaccines for a living. The article that just came out in Nature’s medical journal about the origins of Covid-19 was written by a doctor who she is on the same staff with. Everyone needs to calm down and understand that although an inconvenience now, a lot of VERY smart people are working on keeping us alive and healthy.
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:20 pm to tha mastablasta
Because there is no non-human intervention basis for thinking an illness with a .6 to 3% mortality rate would stop otherwise. It might, but we don't know that.
I don't think we'll have a couple hundred thousand deaths in the US, but aside from the measures taken, there is no reason we shouldnt based on current knowledge.
I don't think we'll have a couple hundred thousand deaths in the US, but aside from the measures taken, there is no reason we shouldnt based on current knowledge.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:21 pm to Walking the Earth
quote:
It would have greatly helped for testing to be more widespread earlier in this country so we had some actual hard (and large) numbers to know what we are truly dealing with here.
Why do you people keep imagining that test kits this specific can be magic'd out of the ether? Even if they had millions of test kits, there are only a handful of labs capable of conducting the tests to proper, reliable standards.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:22 pm to Pettifogger
quote:
I don't think we'll have a couple hundred thousand deaths in the US,
There won't be that many deaths globally.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:22 pm to subMOA
quote:
Although healthy adults and kids handle it well, the elderly DO NOT. You don’t want to have your local ER doc having to decide do you- who just got in a car accident- or your grandma- who just got diagnosed with Covid-18 lives or dies. One will.
Hope you aren’t a democrat, because thats exactly what will happen with socialized medicine
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:22 pm to Clames
quote:
Why do you people keep imagining that test kits this specific can be magic'd out of the ether?
You're right. I acted under the assumption that we would as capable as Italy.
My mistake.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:22 pm to funnystuff
quote:
The concept of exponential growth
^ This. See, e.g., Italy.
Some of you think the spread will go up linearly at a small rate. That's not how this is going to work. Especially with morons dancing around Bourbon Street. Also consider that only a few hundred tests have been performed in Louisiana. Many are simply undiagnosed. And even more can actually have the virus yet show no symptoms (but are still capable of transmitting it to others).
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:23 pm to tha mastablasta
quote:
Please help me understand
Liberals trying to steal the election
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:24 pm to Clames
That's great, and if so it'll be either because
1) measures taken ensured that result, and/or
2) there is some other self limiting aspect neither you nor I know about
1) measures taken ensured that result, and/or
2) there is some other self limiting aspect neither you nor I know about
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:25 pm to Clames
quote:
Why do you people keep imagining that test kits this specific can be magic'd out of the ether? Even if they had millions of test kits, there are only a handful of labs capable of conducting the tests to proper, reliable standards.
My personal opinion was that massive country wide testing would identify the hot spots. As a hotspot is identified it’s locked down before the system is over run. The rest of the country can go on as normal.
Keep picking up the hotspots and lock the down as necessary until the initial wave passes. Staff and equipment can also be sent in to help these hotspots.
It’s a more proactive approach i.e. Korea
Rather than waiting for a bomb to go off and then reacting. It also allows the rest of the country to go on.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:25 pm to funnystuff
quote:
The concept of exponential growth
Doesn’t seem like exponential growth to me based on the fact that since November 17th (first reported case) there’s only been .002% of the population affected...
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:27 pm to tha mastablasta
quote:
the country of highest population (China 1.4 billion roughly) already being through the peak of the “outbreak” and declining.
China is back to work. Doesn't say their numbers are completely accurate, I'm sure they are not, but the fact they have lifted the draconian quarantines is telling.
I read a couple places that it may have mutated to a less dangerous strain.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:27 pm to tha mastablasta
a percentage of a population doesn’t tell you anything about a rate
It’s a rate of change. You are looking at a static number. But you already know that.
It’s a very weak argument
It’s a rate of change. You are looking at a static number. But you already know that.
It’s a very weak argument
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