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People taking obesity drugs and the health industry are you guessed it

Posted on 9/7/26 at 7:41 am
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 9/7/26 at 7:41 am
Racist

Apparently the health conscious are fascist now, trying to take away that beautiful black flesh

Fox News
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117683 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 7:45 am to
Interesting.

And I suppose withholding it and subjecting blacks to diabetes and other obesity related health problems would also be racist.

Damn.... what a racket.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
482343 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 7:50 am to
Anti-Blackness as Anti-Fatness: An Interview with Da’Shaun L. Harrison



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Da’Shaun L. Harrison’s recent book Belly of the Beast: The Politics of Anti-Fatness as Anti-Blackness is a call for revolution. “Out there is a reality where fat Black folks are experiencing the harms of anti-Blackness as anti-fatness,” they write; “Black liberation is the end goal, and for it to happen, fat liberation must also be part of that goal. Not ‘body positivity,’ but freedom” (3). To achieve such freedom, Harrison writes, we need to begin to reckon with the fact that racism and fatphobia are not only systemic issues, but are manifestations of the same corrosive belief: that of the Black body’s inferiority.

In their book, Harrison traces how fatness and Blackness refract through our ideas about desire, health, policing, and gender. These standards, they write, are not just “something the Black fat body has been removed from but rather [are] something created precisely for fat Black people, or the Black fat, to never have access to” (2). Because of this, Harrison argues, individually-oriented movements like the body positivity movement aren’t enough. Instead, we need to look further: to the systems created to devalue the Black body and, ultimately, to the assumptions on which those systems were built. As part of our series Fat Talk, Harrison corresponded with me about their new book and the entangled relationship between fatness and the Black body.


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Eileen: You argue throughout the book that anti-Blackness and anti-fatness are not intersecting attitudes, but part of the same ideology—that they exist inside one another. Could you tell me more about that? How does that distinction affect the way we can start to address these issues?

Da’Shaun: Anti-fatness is anti-Blackness. It is the condition under which the Black fat is held captive to and by the World. Anti-Blackness creates the World and gives meaning to everything in it. So in other words, anti-fatness is the framework by which the (Black) fat subject is forced to be inhuman: an object, the Beast. It is the global structure that determines how we are engaged in life and death, as well as who lives and who dies. In this way, fatness — like Blackness — is always and already criminalized, penalized, objectified, marginalized, and defined by the libidinal economy [or the collective unconscious (or by society" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noreferrer">.

This distinction is an important one because it makes clear that these ideologies do not and cannot exist independent of one another. To destroy one requires the destruction of the other. “Intersect” implies that they exist on their own and meet at a point; I’m suggesting that they have the same origin and, therefore, must have the same end.

Eileen: You make some brilliant connections between the War on Drugs and the War on Obesity. How have these movements asked Americans to orient fatness and Blackness in the public consciousness?

Da’Shaun: These wars have been the foundation for the propagandization of the public with the institutional backing of the U.S. government, government-funded science organizations, and the media. They’ve helped to cement centuries-old ideas about fatness as a killer, and Black people as killers (which is to say, both fatness and blackness are seen as criminal). The idea is that fatness, blackness, and black fatness are immoral, unjust, sinful, and unrighteous. How we are positioned in modern society must be explained, in large part, through these two wars.


Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
7899 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 7:52 am to
If blacks wanna be fat, let them be fat.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
482343 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 7:55 am to
Reading more, this guy seems to want to be lazy. Fatness is just a byproduct.

From the link in OP

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"The diet industry reflects this logic. It operates through what I once defined as formal and informal relationships among major food corporations, the medical-industrial complex, and individual wealthy benefactors to sustain a social order in which fat people are monitored, restricted, guilted, stolen from, and punished. Diet culture has always linked food to morality, framing restraint as virtue and pleasure as danger through language like 'guilty pleasure,'" Harrison said.


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"As governments retreat from care, and health increasingly becomes a signifier of discipline—rather than provision—fitness, disability, fatness, illness, Blackness, impairment, and bodily capacity are mobilized into measures of moral worth and political belonging. This panel examines how health, disability, body size, and race are instrumentalized by the state and being reorganized under health fascism," according to an event description.

In the session, Harrison argued that diet culture conditions "obedience," "self-denial," and "discipline" before framing those concepts as central components of "body fascism."


I'm legitimately curious what his ideal society/government would look like as it relates to discipline and obesity.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
21474 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 7:57 am to
Yeah but we gotta pay when he’s a 29 year old diabetic that needs both legs amputated
Posted by TheGeauxt9
South Louisiana
Member since May 2021
1299 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 7:57 am to
Can you guess who is more desirable?

Not racism, just health conscious




Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
5241 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 8:01 am to
In the annals of psycho-babble, this is about the most psycho-babbliest babble that I have heard in year.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
21474 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 8:01 am to
The skinny girl, if she’s not an addict, is much cheaper on average.

She consumes less of literally everything.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
36908 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 8:01 am to
Being fit is fascist

Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
8164 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 8:02 am to
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If blacks wanna be fat, let them be fat


Then dont ask me to subsidize it with food stamps and Medicaid
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
482343 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 8:02 am to
It's a real choice to claim obesity is a defining characteristic of being black
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
18277 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 8:05 am to
I wonder how Black people would feel about fatness if they knew and understood the history of sugar refining.

Immeasurable human suffering and death occurred around the sugar refining industry in the Caribbean due to the use of slave labor to process the cane.

Hell, I'm not black and don't really give a frick but I avoid sugar quite effectively partly because thinking about what went on back then just makes sugar distasteful to me.

Just like ghetto culture is not black culture, neither is fatness. How many tribes in Africa were obese and morbidly obese?
Posted by RichJ
The Land of the CoonAss
Member since Nov 2016
6284 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 8:07 am to
lol, unhealthy or racist, you decide…

HoneyBees
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42540 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 8:09 am to
It’s pretty simple. Misery loves company. They’re unhappy as hell, and they want you to be unhappy alongside them. If you’re happy, then your happiness is racist, sexist, misogynistic, shows your whiteness, and most importantly shows how much privilege you have. Got it?
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
21474 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 8:21 am to
quote:

alongside them. If you’re happy, then your happiness is racist, sexist, misogynistic, shows your whiteness, and most importantly shows how much privilege you have. Got it?


I use to hate privilege now I love privilege

Wow how things have changed.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15258 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 8:28 am to
It's a damn shame that we live in society where one of the poor's biggest problem, is health conditions brought on by morbid obesity. If that wasn't enough, now we are being told that fats need to be celebrated, and if you don't, there is something wrong with you.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13721 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 8:51 am to
I know its more than likely a "few bad apples ruin the lot" situation with blacks in America but the public face put on sure does portray a very fragile group of people. Absolutely everything, even being fricking obese, is a "black thing" or in some way, shape or form , racist. Talk about fatigue. Can't even be healthy without being labeled racist.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68629 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 9:38 am to
The little brother behind her might want to be careful bc she might eat him.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
13831 posts
Posted on 9/7/26 at 9:49 am to
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If blacks wanna be fat, let them be fat


That would be fine, if we didn't spend billions every year treating diseases that are caused by their lifestyle choices with taxpayer dollars
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