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re: people citing sweden’s high death rate compared to other Nordic nations just don’t get it

Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:25 pm to
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
14344 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:25 pm to
Eliminate may have been too strong of a word, I agree. But why are states with empty hospitals and relatively few Covid cases still under stay at home orders? You can't deny that the rationale for the stay at home strategy shifted from protecting our health care system tosomething entirely different (however you want to describe it)
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9750 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:26 pm to
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wish I could figure out how these two topics are related, but alas, I cannot.


Basically the same reason slightly more lax restrictions are working in Sweden is that more Swedes are acting in the best interesting of society as whole and not trying to game the system for their own advantage. Poor folks but also big companies etc. . .

So, basically it is precisely the same reason people argue that many of their extensive social programs would not work as well here.


This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 4:13 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:28 pm to
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But why are states with empty hospitals and relatively few Covid cases still under stay at home orders?


I think once the White House put out the reopening recommendations it gave governors a shield to hide behind. Now, they can reopen and if things get bad they can point to the federal recommendations.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
88349 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:30 pm to
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You have easily been the most triggered by all this. I look forward to your threads every day.


Dude is a sky screamer
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:31 pm to
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Overwhelming the medical systems isn't as much of a concern as it is in U.S. urban areas.


Yet vast swaths of non urban areas in the US are effectively shut down.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:32 pm to
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Yet vast swaths of non urban areas in the US are effectively shut down.



Correct.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79881 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:35 pm to
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The hidden variable if healthcare capacity


The variable is projected healthcare capacity needed. Drastically overestimate how much capacity is needed and you shutdown too much and end up only using 75% of your existing capacity.
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 1:37 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41925 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:37 pm to
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GeorgeTheGreek


You just got put on the list

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castorinho


You too.
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 1:38 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74741 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 1:45 pm to
Those are 2 great posters.

They ain’t being put on
Posted by MojoGuyPan
Intercession City, Florida
Member since Jun 2018
2797 posts
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:10 pm to
I think we need Stout or Waydown integrate these two functions.
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