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re: Pentagon wasted $28 million on Afghan uniforms

Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:07 am to
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5601 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:07 am to
Here is the fancy pattern.



I wouldn't mind paying taxes so much if I got to decide how to spend it.

This 28 million is just a drop in the wasteful spending bucket.
Posted by PetroBabich
Donetsk Oblast
Member since Apr 2017
5057 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:20 am to
John Sopko is truly the hero we need but not the one we deserve.
Posted by atxfan
Member since Jul 2004
4062 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:28 am to
Based on the stories that come out of Florida, I would think that maintaining law and order in that state must be exponentially more expensive than the national average.
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7438 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:41 am to
The real crime was committed by whoever decided on the ACU pattern for the US Army.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138065 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:22 am to
Wasting govt money is likely my biggest pet peeve, but this simply looks like political grandstanding. These soldiers already have a target on their backs and it has nothing to do with camo patterns. The Taliban fights in black and they seem to be doing just fine.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76158 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:26 am to
quote:

“I mean they’re walking around with a target on their backs, ‘Shoot me.’ Because only 2% of the country is forest woodland, and that’s the outfit that the Afghan minister picked.”


They should concentrate on that 2% and really dominate the area.

Gotta play to your strengths.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35721 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:29 am to
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This is not WW2 and sending shite to the South Pacific takes weeks. Just makes my head explode. Poor guys.


Actual CSB,

My uncle is a CPA and his office folks were always sending me stuff when I was in Afghanistan. He heard it through the grapevine that soldiers were requesting A/C window units for the tents. Luckily, the tents our platoon inherited already had them when we got there. But he was legit taking up collections and was about to send us half a dozen window units.

Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
68762 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:35 am to
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Based on the stories that come out of Florida, I would think that maintaining law and order in that state must be exponentially more expensive than the national average.


True. Can you imagine the crime stories coming out of Louisiana if the population there was 20 million like Florida.
Posted by suavecito80
Member since Apr 2014
3190 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:47 am to
You want to know what is even more shitty..That rifle looks like the one that I had with me in Iraq. Just as old and rattly as you could imagine. Then again the Marines always get the shite equipment.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138065 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:52 am to
Don't y'all get off on being under-supplied and ill equipped?

Figured y'all could've improved your supply and acquisition procedures after almost two and a half centuries.
Posted by suavecito80
Member since Apr 2014
3190 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:56 am to
Which makes it even more bad arse how much shite gets done with all that shitty equipment. So yes we do get off on it.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138065 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:01 am to
Just seems like y'all would try to be more efficient in order to get the better/more supplies. If you're good with shitty stuff, imagine how good you would be with better/more supplies.
Posted by DupontsCircle
Dupont Circle
Member since Jun 2016
5823 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:01 am to
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was marked up 4 times before it was sold to the government. It's really amazing with all of the bid/solicitation regulations that this is able to occur.


I'm not saying you're lying but if that's the truth, they could be prosecuted if it were pursued. The US Gov has a provision that they must receive the best pricing available on any single product sold, particularly commodities and software.

The clause is Favored Nations
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 11:04 am
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138065 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:05 am to
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I'm not saying you're lying but if that's the truth, they could be prosecuted if it were pursued. The US Gov has a provision that they must receive the best pricing available on any single product sold, particularly commodities and software.

Not sure how that works, but if that markup is approved in each of those companies' contracts, then how is that illegal?
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32422 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:07 am to
Posted by DupontsCircle
Dupont Circle
Member since Jun 2016
5823 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:08 am to
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Not sure how that works, but if that markup is approved in each of those companies' contracts, then how is that illegal?



Contract Officer error. Most of the time it's not suppliers who fail, but the government themselves. The clause is supposed to ensure the US Gov is always receiving the most fair and equitable price available, specifically on non services and non-construction contracts. It applies to basically widgets or defined end products.

It is supposed to safeguard the government from overpaying for any particular item, but if nobody is watching the store, then there's no point to the clause.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138065 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:14 am to
That seems like one of those things that's never prosecuted in and of itself but rather thrown in with a slew of other charges.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
19809 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:18 am to
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I wonder who got the kickback.


Guy Kramer is the one who got rich off of this and anyone that believes the "they found the pattern on the internet" story is a fool. This was manipulated from the get-go after Kramer lost the bid to do the US Army uniforms to Crye. Whether this was a deal he worked with the Afghans directly or a consolation prize from his guys in the US army is a toss up.
Posted by ellishughtiger
70118
Member since Jul 2004
21182 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:22 am to
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$28 million


Still less than sending Trump to Florida to play golf on any given weekend.
Posted by USAF_Vol
Member since Sep 2005
827 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:41 am to
Wastebook

Lots of examples. Enjoy.
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