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Paul Allen's team finds wreck of USS Hornet
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:54 am
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:54 am
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The research vessel Petrel is perched on a spot in the South Pacific Ocean that was anything but peaceful 77 years ago. Then, it was the scene of a major World War II battle between the U.S. and the Imperial Japanese Navies. For the U.S. aircraft carrier, Hornet, it would be her last battle.
Now, researchers are revealing Petrel found the wreckage of the USS Hornet in late January – exactly what they were looking for. The ship was found more than 17,000 feet below the surface, on the floor of the South Pacific Ocean near the Solomon Islands. The USS Hornet is best known for launching the important Doolittle Raid in April of 1942 and its role in winning the Battle of Midway.
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:55 am to Jim Rockford
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Paul Allen
Let’s see Paul Allen’s card
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:55 am to Jim Rockford
77 years AWOL. Report back to duty.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:00 am to Jim Rockford
His research yacht The Octopus is one of the most beautiful yachts I’ve ever seen and has a submersible and other cool stuff.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:03 am to Jim Rockford
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The ship was found more than 17,000 feet below the surface
It's mind boggling how deep parts of the Pacific is.
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"They used armor piercing bombs, now when they come down, you hear 'em going through the decks … plink, plink, plink, plink … and then when they explode the whole ship shakes."
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:08 am to Jim Rockford
That's absolute "frick you" money to operate a retrofitted subsea construction vessel as your own personal research vessel
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:53 am to Jim Rockford
April 18, 1942
USS Hornet
My father's cousin was bombardier, dropping first US bombs on Japan with 15 other aircraft of Doolittle's Raiders
Crew of 13th Aircraft # 40-2247 - "The Avenger" -
Despite heavy anti-aircraft fire Lieutenant McElroy and crew attacked the Yokosuka Naval Base to bomb enemy shipping and supplies. One Japanese ship took a direct hit and was seen to fall over on its side, and a second was sheathed in flames when the B25 continued west towards China. The crew successfully bailed out over land and the only injury was a wrenched knee suffered by Sergeant Williams. The crew arrived at Chuhshei three days later thanks to help from local friendly Chinese. The entire crew remained in Indo-China to fly missions for more than a year, and all five crew members survived the war despite an enviable record of combat missions.
Pilot Lt. E.E. McElroy
Co-Pilot Lt. R.A. Knobloch
Navigator Lt. C.J. Campbell
Bombardier Sgt. R.C. Bourgeois (flight jacket on display at National WWII Museum)
Engineer Gunner Sgt. A.R. Williams
Thanks to the late Paul Allen's team for bringing back some memories and reverence to those lost on the USS Hornet.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:54 am to Captain Crackysack
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:04 pm to DavidTheGnome
We saw it in the Maldives in 2015, awesome vessel.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:07 pm to Jim Rockford
Love these stories. Always so fascinating thank you
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:09 pm to Paul Allen
Good job, Paul.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:13 pm to Jim Rockford
Are there pictures of the wreck? I'd love to see her as she rests now.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:18 pm to Cump11b
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It's mind boggling how deep parts of the Pacific is.
And cold. I bet the water is just barely above freezing down there.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:19 pm to Jim Rockford
I love when a person with frick you money actually puts a large portion of it toward things like this, even if it's in death. IMO, the depths of the ocean are the last remaining frontier behind
space, and just a treasure trove of history waiting to be found in the deep. I saw where his team had just found that Jap battleship not even a week ago. I just learned about the USS Oklahoma's sinking during last week's discussion and think this would be a bad arse project to look into for the team next.
And the depths of the ocean are legit scary as frick to me. I'm talking the trenches in the pacific, where unlike the relative 1 atm pressure separating someone in space from it's vacuum, these depths' pressures are something like 1000 atm/15000psi.
Explosive decompression in space is presented pretty regularly in sci-fi, but it's a walk in the park to it's wicked brother, high pressure implosion. A hairline failure in the bulkhead at those depths for only a few milliseconds would superheat the air, currently at a relaxing 1atm, and vaporize everything. You would be a vapor before your neurons even had time to shite it's collective mind. This is then followed by a process akin to a star collapsing to form a black hole.
EDIT: Does anyone know of any research/experiments that were conducted with exposing lifeforms, like a pig, adapted for 1atm to the immense pressure at such depths? I know it's morbid, but to try and film and document this process of instantaneous superheating of the air followed by extreme compression would be interesting to see.
space, and just a treasure trove of history waiting to be found in the deep. I saw where his team had just found that Jap battleship not even a week ago. I just learned about the USS Oklahoma's sinking during last week's discussion and think this would be a bad arse project to look into for the team next.
And the depths of the ocean are legit scary as frick to me. I'm talking the trenches in the pacific, where unlike the relative 1 atm pressure separating someone in space from it's vacuum, these depths' pressures are something like 1000 atm/15000psi.
Explosive decompression in space is presented pretty regularly in sci-fi, but it's a walk in the park to it's wicked brother, high pressure implosion. A hairline failure in the bulkhead at those depths for only a few milliseconds would superheat the air, currently at a relaxing 1atm, and vaporize everything. You would be a vapor before your neurons even had time to shite it's collective mind. This is then followed by a process akin to a star collapsing to form a black hole.
EDIT: Does anyone know of any research/experiments that were conducted with exposing lifeforms, like a pig, adapted for 1atm to the immense pressure at such depths? I know it's morbid, but to try and film and document this process of instantaneous superheating of the air followed by extreme compression would be interesting to see.
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:24 pm to GetEmTigers08
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In May 1947, a two-tug towing operation began to move the hull of Oklahoma from Pearl Harbor to the scrapyard in San Francisco Bay. Disaster struck on 17 May, when the ships entered a storm more than 500 miles (800 km) from Hawaii. The tug Hercules put her searchlight on the former battleship, revealing that she had begun listing heavily. After radioing the naval base at Pearl Harbor, both tugs were instructed to turn around and head back to port. Without warning, Hercules was pulled back past Monarch, which was being dragged backwards at 15 knots (28 km/h; 17 mph).[45] Oklahoma had begun to sink straight down, causing water to swamp the sterns of both tugs.[46] Both tug skippers had fortunately loosened their cable drums connecting the 1,400-foot (430 m) tow lines to Oklahoma.[46] As the battleship sank rapidly, the line from Monarch quickly played out, releasing the tug. However, Hercules' cables did not release until the last possible moment, leaving her tossing and pitching above the grave of the sunken Oklahoma. The battleship's exact location is unknown.[47]
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:49 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:54 pm to fatnhappy
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Despite heavy anti-aircraft fire Lieutenant McElroy and crew attacked the Yokosuka Naval Base to bomb enemy shipping and supplies. One Japanese ship took a direct hit and was seen to fall over on its side, and a second was sheathed in flames when the B25 continued west towards China. The crew successfully bailed out over land and the only injury was a wrenched knee suffered by Sergeant Williams. The crew arrived at Chuhshei three days later thanks to help from local friendly Chinese. The entire crew remained in Indo-China to fly missions for more than a year, and all five crew members survived the war despite an enviable record of combat missions.
Reading these stories you can’t help but think that God protected men like this from certain death in these suicide missions
Posted on 2/12/19 at 1:02 pm to Jim Rockford
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"CBS This Morning" was able to share the discovery in real time with Richard Nowatzki in California – even finding the gun he was on during the attack. "If you go down to my locker, there's 40 bucks in it, you can have it!" Nowatzki joked.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 1:04 pm to Cump11b
I did not expect to see a tractor strapped on her deck.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 1:05 pm to Jim Rockford
Amazing the condition that the ship is in.
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