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re: Patients taking Eli Lilly's retatrutide lost 58 pounds, on average, in a phase 2 clinical
Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:39 am to Coeur du Tigre
Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:39 am to Coeur du Tigre
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but this clearly could help in a range of metabolic disease.
Define metabolic disease? I really find this to be a semantically overloaded term.
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Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:43 am to lsusteve1
Yoga was the catalyst for me to lose and maintain weight. Vinyasa Flow and Slow Burn are so strenuous that it spikes my leptin hormones and kills my appetite. Add in a couple hundred pushups and ab rolls, daily, and I'm fit as a fiddle. Typically just do yoga 4-5 times a week.
This post was edited on 8/30/23 at 10:44 am
Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:50 am to Eurocat
Pharmacy ads should be banned like cigarettes.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:53 am to philter
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Pharmacy ads should be banned like cigarettes.
oh yes....lets leave it up to doctors to know every medicine that can treat something. they arent beholden to the pharma reps at all.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:56 am to lsu777
At least you build a relationship with your PCP, which is the way it should be. You are being brainwashed into thinking every single discomfort needs a pill. Then you stroll in and tell your DR. what you want.
Mine will shoot straight with me, and if you feel they are beholden, you get a new Dr.
Mine will shoot straight with me, and if you feel they are beholden, you get a new Dr.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 11:04 am to philter
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At least you build a relationship with your PCP, which is the way it should be. You are being brainwashed into thinking every single discomfort needs a pill. Then you stroll in and tell your DR. what you want.
Mine will shoot straight with me, and if you feel they are beholden, you get a new Dr.
i wasnt saying that at all...nobody is being brainwashed. sure their are people who fit your description but my point was people are much much better off educating themselves when it comes to scripts and then talking to a doctor about it.
having a relationship with a pcp has nothing to do with it.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 11:05 am to JasonDBlaha
quote:Obese people will not do those things.
Imagine having to take a pill to lose weight when all you have to do is simply eat a little less food and move around more.
If the hysteria generated from the worst pandemic in modern history wasn't a wakeup call to the obese when the virus hit them the worst of all comorbidities, then nothing will shock them into pushing away from the table and getting active.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 11:12 am to lsu777
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your metabolism also doesnt slow very much. we know that for a fact. it only slows about 10 calories per decade of life after 30.
Weight loss is simply calories in vs calories out. It’s that simple. Metabolism plays very little in it. Unless you have a clinical condition that causes an under active metabolism like hypothyroidism, then metabolic rate means nothing.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 11:14 am to lsu777
How does it feel to get all triggered by a stranger on the internet?
Posted on 8/30/23 at 11:15 am to JasonDBlaha
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Weight loss is simply calories in vs calories out. It’s that simple. Metabolism plays very little in it. Unless you have a clinical condition that causes an under active metabolism like hypothyroidism, then metabolic rate means nothing.
i mean it does factor in because it factors into what your maintenance calories are, but
metabolisms are just not as big of a deal as people make them out to be because most of the time its not that much difference between people, most of the difference comes from NEAT
Posted on 8/30/23 at 11:17 am to jcaz
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How does it feel to get all triggered by a stranger on the internet?
im not triggered....im a grown adult, adults dont get triggered or offended
how does it feel to be fat and bragging about being on a diet for 3 weeks while giving advice on how to not be fat?
Posted on 8/30/23 at 11:17 am to Eurocat
How about the medical community start promoting strength training and fitness? Oh wait there’s no money in that. If people got under a cheap barbell and started doing squats and deadlifts, and did 15-20 minutes of walking on the treadmill everyday, then the cases of cardiovascular disease and T2D would dramatically plummet.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 11:17 am to philter
Everyone should have their blood tested at least semiannually. I know that is not realistic in our medical industry, but it is the only way to fully know how to combat certain things like being over weight. Hormone levels play a huge roll. For instance, low T in men is a direct factor of obesity. Too much estrogen, high blood sugar, etc. All of these things, if corrected can lead to a healthier, more fit, lifestyle that wouldn't require a weight loss shot.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 11:19 am to lsu777
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m not triggered....im a grown adult, adults dont get triggered or offended
Your mile long post says otherwise
Is mingo your alter?
Posted on 8/30/23 at 11:19 am to JasonDBlaha
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How about the medical community start promoting strength training and fitness? Oh wait there’s no money in that. If people got under a cheap barbell and started doing squats and deadlifts, and did 15-20 minutes of walking on the treadmill everyday, then the cases of cardiovascular disease and T2D would dramatically plummet.
they would have to be educated on the subjects to do that. they arent
Posted on 8/30/23 at 11:22 am to jcaz
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Your mile long post says otherwise
sorry i like discussing things. didnt realize typing a response meant im triggered
guess you got me...im sitting here shaking im so triggered
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Is mingo your alter?
yep thats it...i created that back in 2005 and i actually weigh 135 lbs just like him.
you done? and if its anyone triggered its you. did i hurt your feelings calling you out on your BS?
the fact is you dont know what the frick you are talking about, both when it comes to me, my politics, what i know about fitness and you dont know wtf you are talking about when it comes to fitness either.
but hey im just a triggered alter of mingo
Posted on 8/30/23 at 11:28 am to philter
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Pharmacy ads should be banned like cigarettes.
Then we won't get a shitty commercial with fat interracial couples dancing to shitty music!
"Ask your doctor if Alotofassoff is right for you!"
Posted on 8/30/23 at 11:29 am to lsu777
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they would have to be educated on the subjects to do that. they arent
That and the fact that there’s no money in preaching the basics. A GP prescribing a strength training powerlifting-based program would yield no kickbacks compared to prescribing a weight loss drug.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 11:31 am to Proximo
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If it works like semaglutide we sure as frick do fatties giving themselves all kinds of gut disease just to be skinny fat
Nausea and vomiting are common but dose dependent. Diarrhea / constipation/ stomach upset. Possible link with pancreatitis and cholecystitis although it’s debated. The latter two seem more likely in people with renal disease.
Posted on 8/30/23 at 11:35 am to cwil177
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Nausea and vomiting are common but dose dependent. Diarrhea / constipation/ stomach upset
this is mainly the medicine doing its job and punishing the user for making poor food choices
those that tend to eat clean on the medicine and get proper amounts of fiber and protein do not run into the problems.
the constipation is kind of by design as one of the mechanisms is slowing gastic emptying. but proper fiber amounts fix this where you get the benifits without the constipation
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Possible link with pancreatitis and cholecystitis although it’s debate
those links are weak AF.
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